This episode features better audio and fewer ads: Gene and cohost Tim Swartz present "Captain" Ron Janix, a fellow who has been immersed in the UFO/paranormal community for many years. During this episode, he'll talk in detail about the state of UFO research, especially the most recent issues regarding the Pentagon's various investigative projects. Through reading and listening to experts, working with various conferences, and doing hundreds of interviews, Ron has built up an extensive knowledge of the subject. He began podcasting with the Elevate The Conversation show back in 2014, and then moved on to the Truth Be Told show along with Tony Sweet. In April 2021, Ron founded The Observation Deck, an online source for information on speakers and events in and around the UFO community. Additionally, he also launched a podcast entitled The Observation Desk, that focused on where his passion lies new theories and discoveries in the areas of Science, Technology, History, and the Paranormal. He is also the Co-Owner, Producer, and Host of "Contact in the Desert," which he presents as the world's largest UFO-themed Conference, each year featuring dozens of well-known figures in the field. He is also a member of the Board of Directors of the newly launched Hollywood Disclosure Alliance, headquartered in Los Angeles.

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