President and CEO of the Toronto Blue Jays, Mark Shapiro, joins Steve at the Rogers Centre, perched atop the dugout, to discuss last year’s World Series, the heartbreak of game 7, chasing excellence instead of outcomes, his father, Ron Shapiro, and if he thought he’d be with the Blue Jays this long.

They also discuss why the election of Trump has made him happier to be in Canada, geopolitics and Israel, rising antisemitism in Canada, his Jewish identity, the expiring CBA, the prospect of a salary cap in baseball, and the impending negotiations.

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