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Dr Robert Zubrin is an American aerospace engineer and advocate for human exploration of Mars. He is the author of, among others, 'The Case for Mars', 'The Case for Space', and 'Merchants of Despair'.

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Stand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@francisjfoster) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians.

00:00 Intro 

03:05 Who is Dr Robert Zubrin?

09:47 Our Lost Excitement for Space Exploration

17:04 Lessons from Space on How to Improve Earth Life

21:48 Why Mars? 

35:58 What Would the Martian Economies be Based Around?

41:29 The Dangers & Challenges of Going to Mars 

53:22 When Will We See Civilisations and Advanced Tech on Mars?

56:35 Intelligent Alien Life Forms

1:01:08 Origin of Anti-Humanism

1:07:57 What’s the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?