How can diversity help make Compliance functions more effective? My guest, Mary Shirley is a compliance professional who has been working to promote women in compliance. She’s the co-host of The Great Women in Compliance podcast and the co-author of a book called Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance.

One of the ways we can mitigate human risk is to have a more diverse range of opinions involved in decision-making. And that’s arguably even more important when it comes to the people in functions responsible for managing human risk. Because if you’re going to effectively influence employees to do the right things and not do the wrong ones, you’re going to need a broad range of insights into what those employees might get up to.

Mary and I both presented at the recent European Ethics & Compliance Conference. You can see those presentations here:

Mary’s presentation on what it takes to be a great woman in Compliance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4AXJUPQyjk & mine on what Compliance has to do with Ethics - https://youtu.be/AYDzfQGesKE

If, like me, you thought Compliance was a male-dominated discipline, but as Mary explains, the ratio of men to women is above average, but for reasons you might not expect. And, that doesn’t mean that there isn’t work to be done.

During our discussion we explore:

Mary's LinkedIn profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/iheartcompliance/

The Great Women In Compliance podcast — https://www.corporatecomplianceinsights.com/great-women-in-compliance/

It’s available on all the major podcast platforms


Sending The Elevator Back Down book - https://amzn.to/3qUWElU

Organisational Psychologist Adam Grant - https://www.adamgrant.net/

The Great Women In Compliance LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12156164/

The Activision Blizzard Story - https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/activision-blizzard-lawsuit-controversy-timeline-explained/

Gucci’s Shadow Committees - https://www.wmagazine.com/story/gucci-millennials-shadow-committee-alessandro-michele

The episode of this show featuring a sexologist - https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/sexologist-dr-jill-mcdevitt-on/

A brief note on audio quality — I recorded my part of the show while travelling and the audio quality at my end isn’t as high as it usually is. My apologies. Fortunately, Mary’s audio, like her content, is of a very high standard.