US president Trump on January 20, 2025 said: “And we will pursue our manifest destiny into the stars, launching American astronauts to plant the Stars and Stripes on the planet Mars”, reminiscent of John F. Kennedy stating his 1961 ambition to take man to the Moon and back. Italian filmmaker Massimo Mazzucco meticulously analyzed official NASA documentation on the Apollo lunar program that landed man on the moon in 1969, and concluded in his 2017 documentary ‘American Moon’, that the missions to the moon can only have been staged. Would Trump be aware?

In this interview we discuss with Mazzucco the Trump ambitions for Mars and for transparency, where mrs. Anna Paulina Luna (what’s in a name) will be leading the Task Force On The Declassification Of Federal Secrets. Excluding however, the ambiguity surrounding lunar missions? I ask Mazzucco how he views Trump, Musk and mrs. Luna, in light of his earlier research into the Apollo program and what would be his advise to president Trump.

The clips opening and closing each Potkaars Podcast episode feature smoke and mirrors, and how you proverbially have to cut through them and be your own journalist if you want to get to the truth. A great starting point for learning more about the Lunar missions is the American Moon documentary made by Mazzucco that can be seen online here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuKu3F0BvY 

On Potkaars: https://potkaars.nl/blog/2025/2/20/massimo-mazzuco-trump-plans-for-mars

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