He motivates why President Cyril Ramaphosa's time in office has expired and rallies behind former health minister Zweli Mkhize. Ramaphosa and Mkhize are the only candidates running for presidency next month when the party elects new leadership.

Masualle has received most support for his bid to be the next ANC secretary-general from KwaZulu-Natal, while most of his home province, the Eastern Cape, supports former KZN secretary Mdumiseni Ntuli.

He prides himself on his “absolute” integrity and says he does not have sleepless nights over “shady dealings” during his tenure as Eastern Cape premier. Masualle alleges people tried to tarnish his name by depositing funds meant for former president Nelson Mandela's funeral into his personal bank account. Reports suggest the amount deposited was R250,000.

He reflects on his leadership legacy in the Eastern Cape.

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