Matson (Matt) Browning served as a detective in Arizona, and spent 25 years undercover, infiltrating and eventually taking down white supremacist groups. His wife Tawni assisted in these investigations, accompanying him to skinhead events & gaining intel. Their book, The Hate Next Door, tells the story of their time undercover.

In this interview, Matson & Tawni discuss their time undercover, the attitude & activities of these hate groups, and how Trump and the Republican Party have enabled extremists. 

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Matson & Tawni: Infiltrating Hate Groups

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Professor Federico Finchelstein is an expert on fascism and populism. His new book, The Wannabe Fascists, takes a look at the new global movement of fascists and populists, headed by Trump, Bolsonaro, and Modi, and explains how they’ve adapted the anti-democracy playbook to the modern times. 

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Lieutenant General Mark Hertling served in the US Army for 38 years, and led over 60,000 soldiers as the Commanding General of the US Army, Europe. He’s an expert on the tactical and political landscape of the War in Ukraine.

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Sam Hartwell is a retired Army Colonel who has briefly returned home after 2 years in Ukraine. Based in Kyiv, Sam has been assisting multiple Humanitarian Aid Organizations. 

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Seth Moulton is a former Marine Corps officer who has represented the 6th congressional district of Massachusetts since 2015. He appears in the film Against All Enemies, where he delivers a prophetic warning about the threats to American Democracy posed by extremist organizations that target and recruit military veterans.

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Justin Bibb has been the Mayor of Cleveland since 2022. In this episode, Bibb talks about how President Biden has helped cities across the country, this new generation of Mayors, Cleveland’s struggles, and what is needed for a healthy political system. 

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Matson & Tawni: Infiltrating Hate Groups

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