Meghan Murphy speaks with Matt Taibbi — an American author, journalist, and podcaster — about Donald Trump, Joe Biden, the attack on the Capitol, domestic terrorism, and how American media can (and must) do better. Matt is the author of: "The Business Secrets of Drug-Dealing: Adventures of the Unidentified Black Male," "Hate Inc.: Why Today's Media Makes Us Despise One Another," "I Can't Breathe," "Insane Clown President," "The Divide," "Griftopia," and "The Great Derangement." You can follow Matt's work on Substack.

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