The guys were delighted to welcome special guest Brandon Larson of Mavenir to this last pod before a brief break. It doesn’t take long for AI to make an appearance in the conversation, but that’s fair enough because it’s a big part of Brandon’s day job. They focus on what AI means for telcos, but there are inevitable tangents in the direction of assessing the utopian vs dystopian implications of the technology. They eventually move on to discuss BT’s latest quarterly announcement before concluding with a quick look at stories concerning OpenAI and Malaysia.