Gene and cohost Tim Swartz present a return appearance from Grant Cameron, who has, for over three decades, explored what U.S. Presidents know about UFOs. Are they fully informed of the extent of the phenomenon or is it kept a secret from them unless there's a compelling "need to know?" Grant is the recipient of the Leeds Conference International Researcher of the Year and the UFO Congress Researcher of the Year. He became involved in Ufology as the Vietnam War ended in May 1975 with personal sightings of a UFO type object which locally became known as Charlie Red Star. That story was published by Dundurn Press in a book titled, Tales of Charlie Red Star. Grant is one of the foremost authorities on Hillary Clinton, and Donald Trump and their UFO connection. Most of that research is found at the Presidents UFO Website – https://whitehouseufo.blogspot.com/ or in two other books “The Clinton UFO Storybook” and “Managing Magic: The Government’s UFO Disclosure Plan.” After experiencing a mental download event on February 26, 2012 Grant turned his research interests away from “nuts and bolts” research to the role of consciousness in the UFO phenomena. This new research has expanded out to the possible involvement of extraterrestrials in modern music, and in the aspects of inspirations and downloads in science discoveries, inventions, Nobel Prizes, music, art, books, near death experiences, meditation, and with individuals known as savants and prodigies. Grant's most recent book is the fourth volume of The Disclosure Series "Beyond Managing Magic 2: Landing the Plane."

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