On day one of Donald Trump’s presidency, he signed a number of executive orders, including several tearing down gender identity ideology and reinstituting women’s sex-based rights. ⁠May Mailman⁠ is one of those who worked behind the scenes on the EOs.

Formerly the legal director for the ⁠Independent Women’s Forum⁠, May Mailman ⁠represented⁠ Kappa Kappa Gamma women who brought a lawsuit in the federal district court in Wyoming when their sorority allowed a male to join. May was a legal advisor to President Donald J. Trump during his first term, and is now ⁠Deputy Assistant ⁠to the President and Senior Policy Strategist.

In this episode, ⁠Meghan Murphy⁠ speaks with her about the Kappa Kappa Gamma lawsuit, the importance of women’s spaces, what it means to be a conservative, Trump's new Executive Orders, and more.

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