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Hot dogs, deep fried oreos, and thrill rides – all things you can find at Minnesota’s State Fair. But dig a little deeper, and you’ll find stories more interesting than the latest food on a stick. Tucked in the History and Heritage Center are two placards highlighting “baby competitions” that once took place on the fairgrounds.

This episode, historian and host Dr. Chantel Rodriguez unpacks the complicated, nuanced history of Better Baby competitions. What were they, where did they come from, and what were they hoping to achieve? To get the answers, Chantel sits down with public historians Laura Leppink and Sarah Pawlicki.