"Media Empires" | The Business of Newsletters, Podcasts, Creators, and Data Acquisition

In this episode of Media Empires, Erik Torenberg sits down with Snigdha Sur, CEO and co-founder of The Juggernaut, to discuss the challenges and strategies of growing a modern media company, including content strategy, team development, expanding their audience from 10,000 to over 500,000, and sustaining revenue, while emphasizing mission-driven journalism for the South Asian diaspora. For full show notes, visit: https://highlightai.com/share/2dfa074b-caaa-4105-80b3-c8fa4474f555

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LINKS:

Sign up to The Juggernaut's free newsletter: https://www.thejuggernaut.com/newsletter

Subscribe to their original articles: https://www.thejuggernaut.com/subscribe

Follow on X (@bethejuggernaut)

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X / TWITTER:

@snigdhasur (Snigdha)

@bethejuggernaut (Juggernaut)

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

Greg Raiten, a former lawyer and a co-founder at The Suite, a curated community-based platform for C-suite executives, joins Erik Torenberg to share the evolution of The Suite, from a side project that grew into a revenue-generating model through membership and sponsorships. They also discuss the process of building and scaling community-based businesses, effectiveness of paid memberships, and exploring future community expansion into other C-suite roles.

🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

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RECOMMENDED PODCASTS:

🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics.

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast

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ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH

Keeping econ entertaining. Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week.

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/econ-102-with-noah-smith-and-erik-torenberg/id1696419056

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6q7Gn5lP8TTtBPuV1NJSGs

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SPONSOR: METAVIEW

Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. Metaview completely removes the need for recruiters and hiring managers to take notes during interviews—because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. Team builders at companies like Brex, Hellofresh, and Quora say Metaview has changed the game—see the magic for yourself: https://www.metaview.ai/heretics

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LINKS:

Explore the GC/legal community: https://www.lsuite.co

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Company website: https://www.thesuite.com

Subscribe to the Media Empires Newsletter: https://media-empires.beehiiv.com/

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X / TWITTER:

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@gregraiten (Greg)

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:58) Greg's background and early career

(03:17) Evolution of The Suite 

(05:51) Vision and expansion

(11:32) Business model

(13:45) Community engagement and events

(17:46) Online membership experience

(20:22) Sponsor: Metaview

(21:29) Sponsorship and revenue model

(22:55) Challenges of future of events

(28:44) Expanding professional communities

(34:16) Building a network

(35:49) Pricing strategies for community memberships

(42:08) Scaling and fundraising

(45:05) Future of paid vs. free communities

(47:37) Successful community models

(50:22) Wrap

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This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

JT Barnett, a former professional hockey player and also the Founder and CEO of CreatorX, joined Erik Torenberg to share his journey from being the 'vibes guy' in the locker room to becoming an influential figure at the intersection of content and commerce. They also discuss the evolution of social media platforms, future of social media, creator financing, and the role of creators in shaping modern businesses. This conversation was recorded in 2023. Grow and monetize your newsletter with Beehiiv: head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “EMPIRES” for 20% off your first three months.

RECOMMENDED PODCASTS:

🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics.

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast

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SPONSORS: BEEHIIV | METAVIEW | SECUREFRAME

Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “EMPIRES” for 20% off your first three months.    

Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. Metaview completely removes the need for recruiters and hiring managers to take notes during interviews—because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. Team builders at companies like Brex, Hellofresh, and Quora say Metaview has changed the game—see the magic for yourself: https://www.metaview.ai/heretics

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LINKS:

🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jtbarnett

Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jtbarnett

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jtbarnett 

Website: https://www.barnettx.com/jt

Subscribe to the Media Empires Newsletter: https://media-empires.beehiiv.com/

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X / TWITTER:

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@jtbarnett (JT)

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro 

(00:29) From hockey to CreatorX

(03:45) Creator economy and business strategy

(06:42) Future vision: JT's empire

(10:36) Evolution of platforms

(14:16) Role of new platforms and technologies

(15:51) Sponsors: Beehiiv and Metaview

(18:02) Content strategy across platforms

(22:54) Demographics on TikTok

(25:13) Brainstorming marketing strategies for SecureFrame

(27:03) Successful examples of TikTok marketing

(28:18) Principles for effective company content

(29:21) YouTube strategies for businesses

(30:51) Potential of YouTube shorts

(32:17) Creators building businesses beyond content

(35:44) Evaluating social media platforms

(36:53) Mr. Beast in a box

(38:58) Creator financing

(41:55) Future of the creator economy

(45:17) Maximizing long term commercial value

(47:56) Wrap

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This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

Rex Woodbury, Founder and Managing Partner at Daybreak Ventures, and previously a Partner at Index Ventures joined Erik to explore the evolution and impact of the creator economy. They discuss the challenges of monetization for creators, the future of consumer social platforms, and the changing demographics and behaviors of different generations. Grow and monetize your newsletter with Beehiiv: head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “EMPIRES” for 20% off your first three months.

🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

RECOMMENDED PODCASTS:

🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics.

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast

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SPONSORS: BEEHIIV | METAVIEW

Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “EMPIRES” for 20% off your first three months.    

Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. Metaview completely removes the need for recruiters and hiring managers to take notes during interviews—because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. Team builders at companies like Brex, Hellofresh, and Quora say Metaview has changed the game—see the magic for yourself: https://www.metaview.ai/heretics

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LINKS:

Daybreak: https://www.daybreakventures.com/

Digital Native: https://www.digitalnative.tech/

Subscribe to the Media Empires Newsletter: https://media-empires.beehiiv.com/

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X / TWITTER:

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@rex_woodbury (Rex)

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:46) Evolution of the creator economy

(03:26) Commerce in the digital age

(08:15) Gen Z: The digital native generation

(13:15) Monetization challenges in the creator economy

(15:57) Sponsors: Beehiiv and Metaview

(18:04) Future of secondhand and resale markets

(21:52) Individuals over institutions

(28:20) Unconventional jobs in the new economy

(31:01) Funding passion projects and NFTs

(34:23) Emerging platforms for digital businesses

(37:19) Challenges and opportunities in disrupting LinkedIn

(39:08) Potential of NFTs and blockchain

(40:22) Financialization of everything

(46:17) Evolution of social Media and commerce

(50:18) Demographic shifts and business opportunities

(53:15) Advice for aspiring entrepreneurs

(54:52) Wrap

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This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

Michael Girdley, CEO of an 11-business holding company and Sean Linehan, CEO at Exec and Squad join Erik Torenberg to talk about the unique approach to incubating businesses, the importance of leveraging media presence, and understanding the intricacies of modern media and business strategies. Grow and monetize your newsletter with Beehiiv: head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “EMPIRES” for 20% off your first three months.

🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

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RECOMMENDED PODCASTS:

🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics.

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast

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SPONSORS: BEEHIIV | METAVIEW

Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “EMPIRES” for 20% off your first three months.    

Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. Metaview completely removes the need for recruiters and hiring managers to take notes during interviews—because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. Team builders at companies like Brex, Hellofresh, and Quora say Metaview has changed the game—see the magic for yourself: https://www.metaview.ai/heretics

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LINKS:

Girdley Enterprise: https://www.girdley.com/

Subscribe to the Media Empires Newsletter: https://media-empires.beehiiv.com/

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X / TWITTER:

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@girdley (Michael)

@seanlinehan (Sean)

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:57) Michael’s journey from Silicon Valley to Texas

(02:58) High upside potential ventures

(04:25) Team-first approach to business incubation

(06:26) Art of incubation: Lessons learned

(09:52) Role of distribution in business success

(13:21) Building a media business

(17:16) Branches under Michael Girdley’s media

(19:37) Sponsors: Beehiiv and Metaview

(21:45) Ideas and consistency of media contents

(23:40) Hiring and incentivizing a CEO for media ventures

(26:02) Setting up early compensation structures

(27:05) Understanding phantom stock and profit interest

(28:14) Commitment levels for CEOs

(29:52) Reality of the HoldCo model

(32:38) Evaluating business opportunities

(34:17) Building trust with CEOs

(39:04) Raising capital and ownership structures

(46:02) Negative stigma on incubators

(48:26) Advice for aspiring entrepreneurs

(53:37) Common mistakes in scaling content

(55:06) Wrap

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This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

Boye Fajinmi, co-founder of The Future Party, a community-based media brand with a daily newsletter reaching 200K subscribers, joins Erik Torenberg to share insights on transitioning from community events to a comprehensive media company, the power of specialized newsletters, and the necessity of diversifying revenue streams. Grow and monetize your newsletter with Beehiiv: head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “EMPIRES” for 20% off your first three months.

🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

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RECOMMENDED PODCASTS:

🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics.

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast

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SPONSORS: BEEHIIV

Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “EMPIRES” for 20% off your first three months.    

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LINKS:

The Future Party: https://futureparty.com

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/boye-fajinmi/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boye/?hl=en

Subscribe to the Media Empires Newsletter: https://media-empires.beehiiv.com/

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X / TWITTER:

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@thefutureparty (Boye)

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:29) Evolution and strategy of The Future Party

(04:35) Navigating the newsletter ecosystem

(08:44) Niche targeting

(10:27) Future aspirations and media diversification

(12:06) Power of events in media growth

(14:47) Sponsors: Beehiiv and Metaview

(16:54) Exploring different mediums

(19:57) Role of events and activations

(24:11) Monetization strategies and subscriber engagement

(27:16) Importance of value creation

(29:10) Wrap

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This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

Anuj Abrol, Creator, former Chief of Staff for Justin Kan and ex-McKinsey, and Sarah Wright, head of content at Product Hunt, join Erik Torenberg of Turpentine to discuss building successful newsletters. In this conversation, they trade innovative strategies for creating high-quality content that attracts readers derived from the Turpentine podcast network, the importance of understanding your audience and social network engagement, and whether vertical newsletters can succeed. Grow and monetize your newsletter with Beehiiv: head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “EMPIRES” for 20% off your first three months.

🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

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RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

🎙️ Second Opinion - A new podcast for health-tech insiders from Christina Farr of the Second Opinion newsletter. Join Christina Farr, Luba Greenwood, and Ash Zenooz every week as they challenge industry experts with tough questions about the best bets in health-tech.

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1759267211

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv

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RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

🎙️ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH - Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week.

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1696419056

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6q7Gn5lP8TTtBPuV1NJSGs

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SPONSORS: BEEHIIV

Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “EMPIRES” for 20% off your first three months.    

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LINKS:

Subscribe to the Media Empires Newsletter: https://media-empires.beehiiv.com/

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X / TWITTER:

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@nujabrol (Anuj)

@sarmariewright (Sarah)

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(01:00) Brainstorming newsletter strategies

(04:40) Exploring group chats and social networks

(07:23) Newsletter goals and audience engagement

(13:15) Monetizing and growing newsletters

(15:48) Sponsors: Beehiiv and Turpentine

(17:36) Importance of high quality content

(20:14) Leveraging podcast ideas

(27:32) Repurposing content for maximum Reach

(32:48) Building relationship with high quality audience

(38:08) Potential of short-form video content

(40:57) Conversion from newsletters to podcasts

(44:33) Wrap 

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This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

Byrne Hobart, creator of the newsletter The Diff and Capital Gains, joins Erik Torenberg to discuss the intricate evolution of media industries. In this conversation, they delve into the comparative success of print and digital media, the economic transformation of the news sector, the disruption in media landscapes and the emerging scenarios in financial journalism.

🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

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RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

🎙️ Second Opinion - A new podcast for health-tech insiders from Christina Farr of the Second Opinion newsletter. Join Christina Farr, Luba Greenwood, and Ash Zenooz every week as they challenge industry experts with tough questions about the best bets in health-tech.

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1759267211

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv

🎙️ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH - Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week.

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1696419056

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6q7Gn5lP8TTtBPuV1NJSGs

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SPONSORS: BEEHIIV

Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “EMPIRES” for 20% off your first three months.    

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LINKS:

The Riff on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheRiffPodcast

The Riff on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-riff-with-byrne-hobart-and-erik-torenberg/id1716646486

The Riff on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6rANlV54GCARLgMOtpkzKt

Being Not-a-Tech-Company: https://www.thediff.co/archive/being-not-a-tech-company/

Subscribe to the Media Empires Newsletter: https://media-empires.beehiiv.com/

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X / TWITTER:

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@ByrneHobart (Byrne)

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:56) Historical overview of media business

(04:36) Golden age of newspapers

(07:54) Impact of digital transformation

(13:28) Media fortunes and distribution changes

(18:55) Sponsors: Beehiiv and Turpentine

(20:43) Understanding the distribution model

(24:21) Role of AI in media layoffs

(31:35) Economics of investigative journalism

(36:32) Advice and Insights in building a media empire

(44:10) AI media: Opportunities and challenges

(53:09) Changing nature of fame in the algorithmic age

(58:17) Being Not-a-Tech-Company

(01:05:44) Wrap-Up

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This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

Dan Ni, CEO of TLDR Newsletter, a leading modern media company that operates 10 curated newsletters with over 8 million readers, joins Erik Torenberg to talk about the success of TLDR. In this conversation, Dan shares the secrets behind TLDR’s rapid growth, the importance of building an audience on your own platform, challenges and strategies of launching new content formats, monetization tactics, and exploring the different niches and media formats.

🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

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RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

🎙️ Second Opinion - A new podcast for health-tech insiders from Christina Farr of the Second Opinion newsletter. Join Christina Farr, Luba Greenwood, and Ash Zenooz every week as they challenge industry experts with tough questions about the best bets in health-tech.

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1759267211

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv

🎙️ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH - Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week.

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1696419056

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6q7Gn5lP8TTtBPuV1NJSGs

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SPONSORS: BEEHIIV

Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “EMPIRES” for 20% off your first three months.    

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LINKS:

TLDR Newsletter: https://tldr.tech/

Subscribe to the Media Empires Newsletter: https://media-empires.beehiiv.com/

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X / TWITTER:

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@tldrdan (Dan)

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:59) Unpacking TLDR’s success

(05:39) Aspirations for TLDR

(07:57) Role of original reporting in business

(09:02) Curator’s role in TLDR

(14:55) TLDR’s team set up

(15:21) Sponsor: Beehiiv and Turpentine

(17:09) Building a sales organization

(20:37) Identifying different niches and demographics

(26:35) Strategies for audience engagement

(28:21) Monetization and adjacency in newsletters

(31:46) Targeting and scaling with advertisers

(38:21) Building a defensible media company

(42:05) Importance of building audience on your own platform

(44:22) Wrap

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This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

Austin Petersmith, an entrepreneur and investor with extensive experience in journalism joins Erik Torenberg to discuss his diverse experiences in the media and tech industries. He shares his journey at Inside, where he helped grow a remarkable newsletter business, and explores the complexities of user-generated content and niche social networks. In this conversation, they also explore the growth strategies, challenges, and monetization tactics used in scaling Inside to millions of subscribers.

🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more.

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812

RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

🎙️ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH - Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week.

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1696419056

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6q7Gn5lP8TTtBPuV1NJSGs

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SPONSORS: BEEHIIV

Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “EMPIRES” for 20% off your first three months.    

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LINKS:

Howie.ai: https://howie.ai/

Subscribe to the Media Empires Newsletter: https://media-empires.beehiiv.com/

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X / TWITTER:

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@awwstn (Austin)

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:57) Austin's journey into tech

(03:42) Building a newsletter empire

(11:39) Evolution and potential of social audio platforms

(14:41) Inside's growth and monetization strategies

(20:52) Sponsor: Beehiiv and Turpentine

(22:40) Reflecting on editorial strategies and experimental approaches

(26:53) User-generated content and future ideas

(29:36) Rise of niche media

(36:37) Challenges and strategies in podcasting

(39:17) Innovative models in SaaS and software negotiation

(45:32) Private Equity for podcasting

(53:47) Request for startups

(55:13) Wrap

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