Unmade: media and marketing analysis

'Media is different' - Will Hayward on why he believes Private Media's Pinstripe purchase will work out


Listen Later

Welcome to an audio-led edition of Unmade.

We’re a day earlier than usual in our weekly podcast cycle, after last night’s announcement that Eric Beecher’s Private Media has bought the David Koch-founded Pinstripe Media. Today’s interview features Private Media CEO Will Hayward and Pinstripe’s MD AJ Koch.

And further down, there were big swings in both directions on the Unmade Index.

To get maximum value from a paid membership of Unmade, sign up today.

Your annual membership gets you tickets to September’s REmade conference on retail media; to October’s Unlock conference on marketing in the nighttime economy; and to Unmade’s Compass end-of-year roadshow.

You also get access to our paywalled archive.

Upgrade today.

‘We’re trying to build a mass product’

This week saw a major consolidation in the publishing sector serving small businesses, with Private Media, owner of Smart Company, buying its biggest rival Pinstripe Media. Pinstripe, founded by former Sunrise presenter David Koch, publishes Startup Daily, Flying Solo and Business Builders.

Private Media has been examining its options to grow through acquisition for some time. In conversation with Unmade’s Tim Burrowes, Will Hayward explains why, of 30 potential acquisitions, Pinstripe was the deal to do. And AJ Koch explains why now was the time to sell the family firm.

David Koch will continue to front Business Builders for now, but will not be coming across as a member of staff.

In the conversation Hayward acknowledges the view of investor Warren Buffett that acquirers are usually on the wrong end of any acquisition. He argues: “We think media is different, and I would argue that the trend in media has been positive.”

On the exit of his father from managing Pinstripe, AJ Koch says: “He's not a spring chicken anymore and we know he needs to retire at some point. We'd always talked about being open to an exit at some point. But we weren't actively looking.”

Hayward says that the logic of the deal is centred on the close competition between the two organisations in targeting an audience of small and medium sized businesses. But he claims this new found pricing power will not be used to put up prices for advertisers and sponsors, but to make it easier to advertise in the sector.

He says: "The first step to building a really sustainable business in which the majority of revenue comes from advertising is to make sure that you're making it really easy for your advertisers to grow their spend year on year. If I was a CEO of a publicly listed business where I was incentivized on the next 12 months of revenue, absolutely pricing power matters a great deal. I'm not.

“We're not too focused on the next year. We're focused more on the next three to five years. And the first step on that journey will be making it as easy as possible for the marketing team at Big Tech Inc to say ‘That's a great buy. Let's just keep doing that buy'.”

Red and green on the Unmade Index

The Unmade Index crept up on Tuesday during a day with no clear direction.

Southern Cross Austereo and Seven West Media both saw upwards jumps of 3.4% and 3.5% respectively.

And Vinyl Group and Enero saw larger falls of 8.7% and 4.1% respectively.

The Unmade Index closed on 586.6 points, an improvement for the day of 0.18%.

More from Mumbrella…

* Nine Radio loses Sydney and Melbourne as listeners switch to FM

* The case of the smoking bullet point: Qantas admits to ChatGPT use ‘for formatting’

* Omnicom confirms Nick Garrett to lead new Oceania structure

* Exclusive: Paul Bradbury quits in wake of Omnicom changes

* Why are readers fleeing from Australia’s top news sites?

* Opinion: No CMO is an island: Why collaboration is more important than ever to marketing leadership

Today’s podcast was edited by Abe’s Audio. We’ll be back with more soon.

Have a great day

Toodlepip…

Tim Burrowes

Publisher - Unmade + Mumbrella

[email protected]



This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.unmade.media/subscribe
...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Unmade: media and marketing analysisBy Tim Burrowes


More shows like Unmade: media and marketing analysis

View all
Conversations by ABC listen

Conversations

862 Listeners

Mumbrellacast by Mumbrella

Mumbrellacast

1 Listeners

ABC News Daily by ABC

ABC News Daily

127 Listeners

If You're Listening by ABC listen

If You're Listening

314 Listeners

Squiz Today by Squiz Media

Squiz Today

47 Listeners

The Morning Edition by The Age and Sydney Morning Herald

The Morning Edition

82 Listeners

The Quicky by Mamamia Podcasts

The Quicky

117 Listeners

Mi3 Audio Edition by Mi3 & iHeart Podcasts Australia

Mi3 Audio Edition

1 Listeners

7am by Solstice Media

7am

143 Listeners

The Imperfects by Hugh van Cuylenburg, Ryan Shelton & Josh van Cuylenburg

The Imperfects

442 Listeners

Full Story by The Guardian

Full Story

174 Listeners

The Briefing by LiSTNR

The Briefing

51 Listeners

FEAR & GREED | Business News by Fear and Greed

FEAR & GREED | Business News

10 Listeners

Mushroom Case Daily by ABC listen

Mushroom Case Daily

751 Listeners

MediaLand by ABC listen

MediaLand

0 Listeners