In today's episode, I get to have a conversation with the amazing Megan Fate Marshman! Megan and I talk about seeing the messy parts of ourselves and how God can use our mess just as much as He can use our gifts (especially if we are open and willing to listen to His nudges). Two months back, Megan shared at Embrace (the church I pastor) and the response was INSANE. Like unexplainable. So I asked her what has changed in her preaching process and how she uncovers so much wisdom. She also shared how she's gained an eternal perspective through grieving the loss of her husband. A perspective shift that has obviously changed her. I hope this message leaves you feeling challenged and inspired! Grab a copy of Megan's book Relaxed. Thanks to our amazing partners on this episode: International Justice Mission & Generous Coffee International Justice Mission is a global nonprofit working to end slavery and violence around the world, taking special care of survivors from the moment they're rescued all the way through their healing and restoration. To learn more and support their mission, visit ijm.org Generous Coffee sells some of the best coffee in the world AND 100% of profits are donated to nonprofit organizations that are fighting injustice facing humans around the world. You can find out more (including purchasing in bulk) at generousmovement.com Subscribe to The Conversation on YouTube and watch the full interview with Megan: youtube.com/@adamaweber Sign up for The Crew: adamweber.com/thecrew