In Episode 471: Shifting Allegiances, we are joined by Charlie, the father of former guest and current Merkel Media film crew member Joel Thomas from VanTesla. When Joel was on the show, we mentioned how his father was at one time in his life pursuing a Satanic cult path to find his place in the world, and when I heard that I knew I had to talk to Charlie. In Episode 471, he talks to me about his experiences with the satanic cult and, when it didn't go as planned, how he had a miraculous moment where he turned his life over to Jesus Christ and never looked back. Charlie also shares what he's seen and experienced from wizards performing magic to demonically possessed people. 

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