In episode 664: Church Channeler, David recounts his eerie childhood encounters with Clifford, a faceless, long-fingered entity, and a mysterious man in old-fashioned clothing seen under and around his house. Together, Tony and David dive into theories about portals, reality shifts, and the area's cave systems, linking them to Kentucky's history and local disappearances. They then touch on dogman sightings and David's Freemason ties, exploring paranormal phenomena, including church-related events and spirit channeling by David's father. They ponder Clifford's true nature—ghost, angel, or something else—highlighting the occult's influence and the need for discernment in spiritual matters.

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