In this episode, we first link at the term “progressive revelation” and attempt to understand how this term is used by mainstream Christianity. We then move to the idea of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and look at if those before the Acts 2 event were indwelled by the Spirit, or if the Spirit only indwelled believers after this event. We then move to Acts 15 and ask if Gentiles are distinct in their keeping of the commandments, or if this has been a misreading of the text by those who think Gentiles have different laws than physical descendants of Jacob.

• 2:49 Start

• 5:44 Progressive Revelation

• 17:47 Indwelling of the Spirit in the OT

• 34:28 Looking at Acts 15

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In this episode, we look at a video from a Christian pastor who contends the Sabbath has been changed from Saturday to Sunday. Using some of the things he says, we then turn to 2 Corinthians 3 and look at the ministry of the New Covenant through the Spirit vs the ministry of flesh through the Old Covenant. We finish by apply this to Romans 8.

• 2:49 Start

• 8:19 Sabbath Changed to Sunday?

• 34:40 2 Corinthians 3

• 58:42 Romans 8

Why Do Jews and Christians Have Different Sabbath Days?

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In this episode, we begin by look at the idea of hell, then a quick discussion of “free will,” then we move to our final look at the IAMCS paper titled One Law Two Sticks. This is the final look at the paper we have been looking at for months.

• 2:50 Start

• 6:13 Thoughts on Hell

• 13:50 Free Will

• 25:28 One Law Two Sticks

• 42:22 FFOZ and Tim Hegg

One Law Two Sticks

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In this episode, I talk to Harold Rosin, author of the new book “Divorce in the Scriptures.” This book is an important study in the realm of divorce and is a great study for anyone, even those who have not been directly effected by divorce. Rosin surveys divorce throughout the Tanach and then moves into the Apostolic Scriptures. His study comes to a head with Luke 16:18 and the famous words of Yeshua. How should we understand this verse?

• 2:52 Start

• 9:01  Galatians Timeline

• 22:53 Abrahamic Covenant

• 34:18 Interview with Harold Rosin

Divorce in the Scriptures

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• 2:52 Start

• 5:34 – Follow Up

• 20:36 – The Torah Movement

• 33:47 – What One Law Gets Wrong

• 54:43 – Salvation by Works?

What Hebrew Roots and One Law Theology Gets Wrong

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In this episode, we look at an email from a listener and we attempt to define what exactly the Hebrew Roots movement is. We also look at Seventh Day Adventism, Sacred Name, Two House theology, and Nehemia Gordon.

• 2:52 Start

• 7:50 Defining Hebrew Roots

• 29:12 Looking at SDA

• 46:42 Calendar Issues

• 53:36 Sacred Nameism

• 100:29 Nehemia Gordon

Ellen G. White: False Date Setting, Rewriting History, and a Fascination with End Time’s Predictions (Part 1)

Ellen White: Rewriting History (Part 2)

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In this episode, we look at the early church and it’s use of bread in communion, then we continue our look at the IAMCS steering committee’s 2014 paper “One Law, Two Sticks.” While proponents of the this view continue to claim they are not “anti-Gentile” this paper along with their suggestions on “unity” paint a very different picture.

• 2:48 Start

• 6:10 Revisiting Sukkot in the End Times

• 11:26 Should We Be Keeping Purity Laws?

• 21:16 Bread and Wine as Elements

• 35:30 One Law Two Sticks Continued

• 50:55 Anti-Gentile in Action

One Law Two Sticks

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In this episode, we start by looking at several comments, one being on the future celebration of Sukkot by all nations and the idea of going up to Israel for the festivals. Then we turn once again to the One Law Two Sticks article by the IAMCS. The article now moves to specific teachers within the Hebrew Roots and focuses on Two House theology. In the end, we talk about God’s plan and how no amount of article writing will change God’s plan.

• 2:50 Start

• 8:09 Pinnacle of Prophecy

• 12:29 Pilgrimage Festivals

• 22:29 One Law Two Sticks… again

• 53:00 Naming Names

One Law Two Sticks

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In this episode, we address questions of canon and why Esther should be in our Bible. We also look at the idea the Torah is the bench mark of inspired Scripture. We then, once again, turn to the paper we have been going through by the IAMCS titled “One Law, Two Sticks.” We finally get into the portion of the paper where they attempt to characterize One Law as a false Gospel.

• 2:51 Start

• 8:41 The Book of Esther as Canon

• 18:23 Is the Torah the Bench Mark?

• 32:27 Back to One Law Two Sticks

• 46:21 Attacking One Law

• 59:39 False Gospel?

One Law Two Sticks

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In this show, I sit down with David Wilber to talk about his new book Pseudo-Scripture. Should the books of 1 Enoch, Jubilees, and Jasher be part of the biblical Canon? Historically the answer has been “no,” but in modern times some, especially in the Hebrew Roots movement are taking a different view suggesting these books are, in fact, inspired Scripture. Wilber will talk about his book and why he takes the historical view that these books are not in fact Scripture. Beyond this, we will also talk about Wilber’s new article on the Hebrew Roots movement and what makes this movement different than the Messianic movement.

Pseudo-Scripture by David Wilber  

What is the Hebrew Roots? – David Wilber

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