In this episode, we first look at Acts 10 and Peter’s vision and discuss the various elements of this story. We then walk through Hebrews 8-9 to see if we can understand how the priesthood might fit into this narrative. Finally, we look at credal Christianity and the idea of drawing lines in the theological sand. When do we say a person’s belief places them outside the covenant?

• 2:47 Start

• 5:19 Acts 10 What’s Going On?

• 14:44 Hebrews 8-9 and the Priesthood

• 30:59 Credal Exclusion

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In this episode, we look at several emails that push against previous comments. We look at the Pentecostal movement and explore if it was fueled by experience or scholarship. Then we look at scholarship in general. Is biblical education necessary or should we rely on the Spirit? Finally, a look at the word “atonement” in the Bible and how Yeshua’s work in the spiritual realm parallels this.

• 2:49 Start

• 6:01 What Motivated Pentecostalism?

• 26:27 Catholicism and Idolatry

• 37:51 Should We Care About Scholarship?

• 58:38 Atonement and Yeshua

Rather Spirit Filled Than Learned – Marius Nel 

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In this episode, we look at several emails that have come in that shed light on what exactly the Hebrew Roots is as we attempt to understand the difference between the HR and the Messianic movement. We then turn to the One Law Two Sticks article by the IAMCS to look at some of the Hebrew Roots history.

• 2:44 Start

• 6:03 Gentiles in the Millennium

• 22:36 What is the Hebrew Roots?

• 52:23 Hebrew Roots Teachers

• 104:08 Monte Judah

One Law Two Sticks

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In this episode, we look at an email where someone defines “Messianic Judaism” as a practice except for one theological belief, it has to be anti-one law. We discuss why this is a problem and how the big groups in the Messianic movement can’t even agree with each other on the definition. Then we turn to the the IAMCS paper, Two Sticks One Law.

• 2:47 Start

• 7:22 Is “Messianic” Belief or Practice?

• 21:10 You’re Not Messianic!

• 35:25 Review of Two Laws One Stick (Continued)

One Law Two Sticks

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In this episode, we continue our look at the IAMCS steering comity paper, “One Law, Two Sticks.” In this section of the paper, they look at the history of the Hebrew Roots movement, and we finally find some common ground with the authors as they discuss the history and problems with the Sacred Name movement.

• 2:44 Start

• 5:37 John 6.53 and Communion

• 18:07 History of HR

• 41:38 Sacred Name Movement

• 101:13 Different Dates of Shavuot

One Law Two Sticks

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In this episode, we look at a video by the Think Institute that discusses the New Covenant. In this video, the speaker gives definitions of the New Covenant and what he is calling the “Old Covenant.” We walk through parts of this presentation step by step to show where we agree and disagree.

• 2:48 Start

• 6:13 The Think Institute

• 11:54 Defining the New Covenant

• 33:04 Defining the “Old Covenant”

• 41:01 1 Corinthians 3

• 51:36 Legalism?

• 103:07 Only Mediator

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In this episode, we dive back into the Two Sticks One Law article by the IAMCS steering comity. This article attempts to argue Gentiles should not be keeping the law of God and that it is only for Jews. We continue to walk through this document to show where we disagree and agree. There is also a discussion on what Messianic Judaisms is. Is it a theological belief? Or is it a practice?

• 2:52 Start

• 9:03 Practice or Theology?

• 12:27 Romans 2.14

• 19:59 Morality and Gentile Observance

One Law Two Sticks 

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In this episode, we start with a discussion on the pilgrimage festivals and why Paul skips so many of them, then we move to a discussion on the trinity, finally, we finish by continuing our look at the IAMCS steering comity paper “One Law, Two Sticks.”

• 2:52 Start

• 11:56 Trinity

• 31:10 One Law Two Sticks Review

• 52:30 Torah and Morality

One Law Two Sticks 

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In this episode, we first have a discussion on predestination and some of the various debates that go on. We then move to reviewing the article put out in 2015 by the IAMCS on One Law theology titled, “One Law, Two Sticks.”

• 2:48 Start

• 5:36 Predestination VS Free Will

• 26:15 One Law Two Sticks Review

One Law Two Sticks

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In this episode, we look at a question about God divorcing Israel and if Yeshua had to die to remarry her. Then we move to Exodus 12:48 and the idea of a Gentile becoming a natural born covenant member. Finally, we begin to read through the IAMCS steering committees paper, One Law Two Sticks.

• 2:48 Start

• 4:39 Did God Divorce Israel?

• 15:46 The Gentile and Native Born

• 35:50 One Law Two Sticks

One Law Two Sticks

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