In this episode, we take a deep dive into the Et Cepher Bible and see if the criticism is warranted. We look at the base translation and the person behind the work to bring the Et Cepher to market. We discuss some of the translation choices, the inclusion and exclusion of “et” throughout the text, the theological elements that have been included, a discussion on canonization, and the controversial decision to add the 16th century book of Jasher.

• Start 2:16

• Et Cepher Intro 7:27

• Base Text 12:29

• Who’s Behind the Et Cepher? 18:49

• Inclusion of Jasher 25:00

• Hebrews 8-9 – 35:19

• Et Theology 37:17

• Exodus 6 – 40:44

• John 1 – 44:50

• Does it Matter? – 57:06

What Version of the Bible Should I Read? – Tim Hegg

5 Reasons to Avoid the Et Cepher Bible – David Wilber

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In this episode, we have a discussion about the Septuagint, the Vulgate, and the Aramaic Targums, the we move to canonization of the Scriptures and the belief within Judaism of the Great Assembly and Yavneh. Finally, we finish with a look at various bible translations.

• 4:15 Intro

• 11:12 How to Use the Aramaic Targums

• 29:07 The LXX

• 34:40 Canonization

• 48:08 Bible Translations

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In this episode, we recap the 2025 Evangelical Theological Society annual meeting in Boston. We look at the reasons I believe it’s important to go and some of the benefits we get from it. We also discuss comments on recent videos where people have attacked the deity of Yeshua and claimed He is simply an “agent” of God, and also claims that Paul’s letters are not canonical.

• 2:17 Start

• 5:45 Benefit of the ETS

• 14:06 Sessions I attended

• 27:28 Books from ETS

• 33:45 – Deity of Yeshua

• 36:57 Should We Get Rid of Paul

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In this episode, we look at Hebrews 10 and consider the traditional view that the writer believes the Torah, and specifically the sacrificial system has been done away with. Then we move to the New Covenant and ask what exactly has been fulfilled. Finally, a discussion on the Bible and if it has so many mistake how can we trust it?

• 2:20 Start

• 8:54 Future of the Messianic Movement

• 16:44 Hebrews 10

• 35:57 What is Fulfilled in the New Covenant?

• 50:55 Does the Bible Have Tons of Mistakes?

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In this episode, we discuss the recent letter that was sent to IAMCS congregations and the split taking place between the alphabet groups (IAMCS, UMJC, MJAA). Then we look at a question about Yeshua and Oral Law. Did Yeshua actually condemn oral law or does He actually cite it? How should we as believers in Yeshua approach rabbinic tradition and Oral Torah?

• 3:27 Start

• 12:09 IAMCS Letter

• 22:56 One Law Infiltration?

• 28:44 Did Yeshua Keep the Mishnah?

• 40:11 Rabbinic Story Response

• 46:41 Formation of the Mishnah

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In this episode, we look at common objection to the rabbinical calendar. Many within the Hebrew Roots movement believe we should be keeping various calendars but is this true? To understand this argument we first attempt to define what Hebrew Roots and Messianic Judaism is and look and the differences between them. Then we look at the problems and strengths of the traditional calendar.

• 2:22 Start

• 11:50 Calendar Debate

• 14:56 Hebrew Roots VS Messianic

• 25:52 Problems with Traditional Calendar

• 47:00 Old VS New Two House Theology

• 53:00 Sanctuary Cities

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In this episode, we look at the celebration of Halloween and ask if Christians should be involved in celebrating this holiday, or if the modern Church’s replacement with things like “Trunk or Tread” are ok from a biblical perspective. Then we turn to the doctrine of salvation by faith alone. Has the Church missed something here? What do we do with Yeshua’s response to the rich young ruler? Does James advocate for salvation my works? All of these points are looked at and discussed.

• 2:17 – Start

• 9:36 – Discussion on Halloween

• 37:08 – Salvation by Faith Alone

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In this episode, we look at an article by R.M. Bailey that contends the term “pronomian” is taking on a new shape and that we should use it as a hermeneutical term instead of a label. We survey the article and give some opinions and history as to how this term has been used in the past five years. Finally, a look at the teachers who have used this term and how we are more united than ever before, not because of a label or a theological perspective, but because of our love for our King Yeshua.

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In this episode, we start by looking at the five major festivals in the Bible and discuss what each one of them mean, what their significance is, and how they point directly to our personal story of salvation, as well as, Israel’s story of redemption. These festivals point to what has happened for believers in Yeshua as well as future events that are yet to happen.
Then we move to the arguments made by the mainstream Christian Church on why we no longer have to keep these feasts, and ask if these arguments are biblical or not.

• 2:10 Start

• 7:20 The Fall Festivals, Meaning & Significance

• 31:41 Fulfill & Appeal to Early Church

• 45:16 Be can but don’t have to?

• 57:27 Celebrating Passover in the Heart

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In this episode, I look at liturgical prayer for today and discuss what this can look like in the life of a believer. Then a short look at what has often been termed “the Covenant of Works” and if this is really what was going on in the garden. Then I move to the main topic of Theonomy, a theological position that contends the civil aspects of God’s law still apply today and that we as believers should try to get the nation we live in to conform to God’s civil law. How should we as Torah observant believers see this theological position?

• 2:20 Start

• 7:08 Liturgy for Believers

• 15:30 Covenant of Works?

• 21:13 What is Theonomy?

• 23:40 Christians and Theonomy

• 43:31 General Equity Theonomy

• 58:44 Should We Believe in Theonomy?

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