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Kara Swisher joins me to talk about her new podcast with the New York Times, Sway.

We also discuss her twenty year career on the tech beat, 500 episodes of Recode Decode, and discovering the big dog, Scott Galloway, for her podcast Pivot.

Along the way we talk about the importance of finding a mentor, doing what you love, Trump and Twitter, and answer the big question of the day, who is more destructive to democracy Rupert Murdoch or Mark Zuckerberg?

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After three seasons of the ABC's excellent political podcast Russia, If You're Listening, host Matt Bevan is back with new episodes focused purely on the last four years of Trump.

Now renamed America, If You're Listening, the show will dive deep into a different defining moment in the US president's first term each episode, beginning with Hurricane Maria which tore through Puerto Rico in 2017. The official death count for this tragedy is 64, a number Trump repeated often, despite an estimated 3000 lives lost. To read a print verion of this discussion, head to SMH.

We recorded this episode a few weeks ago and joked at the time that 'you never know what's going to happen next with Donald Trump', and boy was that true! I can imagine Matt spent the weekend re-writing scripts, following the news that Trump has now tested positive for coronavirus.

Click to find America If You're Listening in all good podcast apps.

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Among the glut of true crime podcasts released post Serial, one series stood out. Trace, from ABC’s Rachael Brown, ignored the sensationalist trappings of so many true crime yarns, remembering the victim and her surviving family are real people, not binge-worthy characters created for our entertainment - you can read my interview with Rachael in the Sydney Morning Herald, but here's our full discussion.

Both seasons of Trace are fantastic, but you know that. Trace has been number one in Apple Podcasts since launch.

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Amy Donaldson and Hunter Mulcare host one of my favourite independent podcasts, Two Shrinks Pod.

The pair join me to discuss how the pod came to be, as well as mental health in the time of covid, is our government offering enough support to vulnerable people, and exactly what mental health issues does Dobby the house elf suffer from.

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Former Prime Minister Julia Gillard joins me to discuss A Podcast of One's Own, her show exploring women in leadership.

Gillard's guests include Hillary Clinton, Cate Blanchett, Sally McManus and Deborah Frances-White.

Her podcast remains upbeat and empowering, despite the structural misogyny so often faced by her amazing guests.

Julia shares her favourite stories from the podcast, the new generation fans she has made from the show, and just briefly, the appointment of Tony Abbott as a trade advisor to the UK.

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Baratunde Thurston os an award-winning comedian, writer and activist.

In 2020 he has released two podcasts, We're Having a Moment, a short run series looking at the Black Lives Matter movement, and the US response to covid-19.

He is has recently launched a podcast How To Citizen, which champions local and community politics, and what it means to be an active participant in democracy.

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I spoke with Tegan Taylor and Dr Norman Swan of Coronacast on two occasions.

Once in June, when Australia's collective response to Covid-19 seemed to have sheltered us from the major health and economic effects.

I spoke to them again in early August, with my hometown of Melbourne deep in weeks of lockdown.

Both times the pair brought the facts, analysis and good humour that has made Coronacast a must listen for so many Australians.

Warning, there are some adult themes part way through the episode that I should've mentioned in my introduction.

The print version is available at SMH.

You can check out Coronacast at ABC.

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After a few months work, I'm so happy to share Meta, a podcast about podcasts.

Thanks to all the wonderful people who took the time to be interviewed.

Featured in the trailer:

Tegan Taylor and Norman Swan from Coronacast

Baratunde Thurston from How to Citizen

Monika O'Hanlon from Would You Rather

Patrick Radden Keefe Wind of Change

Cass Thorburn of Divorce Story

Ruby Jones of 7am

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