“It’s all the same…only the names will change…”
Sometimes, just like with “identical” twins, identifying the differences between subgenres can be difficult. Sure, they may seem the same, but there are subtle differences between the two that make them unique as individuals. Similarly, as with the “speed metal vs thrash metal” debate which has persisted since the 80’s, so continues the everlasting debate between Stoner and Doom metal:
Are they the same? Or are they different?
And if they ARE different, then WHAT is the difference?
In short, both Stoner AND Doom metal trace the source of each of its respective origins back to Black Sabbath, with each possessing an arsenal of crushing riffs, tuned down guitars, and slow, heavy, trudging tempos. But if there were a single distinction to draw the line between these two subgenres, then that line has to be within the lyrical subject matter, as shown by the following logic*:
IF drug references, THEN stoner metal.
Prepare yourself for an onslaught of Nerdery off shoots, including the forthcoming (as yet to be started) “Angry Matt” podcast, prepare for our upcoming “Bon Jovi album dive”, stick around for our sandwich segment on “Sandwich Nerdery”, including a rant-filled accusation against a former sandwich giant who was wrongly accused of wreaking gastrointestinal havoc with their “muffalotta” and JOIN US as we attempt to get to the heart of the matter at hand with STONER DOOM METAL VOL. 7: THE SEARCH FOR DOOM
*While we’re well aware that this is not an exact science and our logic may seem a tad “dirty sloppy”, it’s the best we could do given the circumstances.
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(00:01): “I don’t know if I could do the #meatsuit…”/ #Rawbanger sounds cool…/ #RussellsReflectionsHorrorMovieASMR #Longlegs / “That doesn’t even look like him…”/ “My didn’t talk like that…”/ “WTF does feet have to do with #buttcancer?” / #lookitup / “If I could do that, I could do yoga…”/ “That means it sucks…”/ “Axe in the back…”/ “I can’t watch #thetrailer…”/ “Are there any more funny movies being made?”/ “You can taste the alcohol in it, that’s all…”/ ***IF YOU WANNA SKIP TO THE MEAT OF THE EPISODE, GO FIND #THEDOCKET…*** / “It would have been a perfect time to #markthetime…”/ #LGFT #TankDog #thisepisodesbeeroftheepisode / ***WARNING: #listenerdiscretionisadvised *** / “World has too many #probrems … open #Winder…”/ #outofcontext / ***WELCOME BACK TO THE METAL NERDERY PODCAST IN CRYSTAL CLEAR BLURRY TECHNICOLOR…*** / #pictureday / #NewRealmBrewery #TheVerdict #HazyImperialIPA / “You know what a 96 is?” / “The dumbest sex position in the history of sex…”/ #snooch / “It’s not the right angle…”/ #PornoNerdery #CountryNerdery #RapNerdery #FoodNerdery #FoodPornoNerdery
(12:50): “I wanna say this…#Publix has some good subs.”/ #RussellsReflectionsDeliDangerASMR / #JerseyMikes / “WTF happened to #Quiznos…?”/ “I exploded out of both ends…”/ “I wished the toilet had handles…”/ #LMFAOASMR / “Every restaurant has its own aroma…”/ “What about #Schlotzskys?” / “OMG, I just totally fucked up!” / #SorryQuiznos / “It was the #Muffalotta…”/ #SandwichNerdery / “Time stamp this…”/ #vomitdrawer / “Have we talked about this for 20 minutes at least?” / “Okay, quick vomit question…”/ #weirdtinglies / “Quarterly, at least…”/ “It’s not a good tingle…it’s not like a #heattingle …”/ “You’ve GOTTA take it there…”/ “Hand over mouth…and then you accidentally swallow a little bit…”/ #talesofvomitusASMR
(22:31): “How about #correspondencees…?” / “So going forward…”/ “Dude, we need to do a #BulletBoys episode…”/ ***COME JOIN US ON THE PATREON AT patreon.com/metalnerderypodcast *** / #PatreonShoutout / “For less than the price of a pack of cigarettes…”/ #BunkerpoonAfterDark / #impromptu / ***You can email us at [email protected] AND on the #socialmedia at #Facebook and #Instagram and #YouTube AND YOU CAN GIVE US A CALL AND LEAVE US A VOICEMAIL AT 980-666-8182!!!*** / #VoicemailSegment #BigMac #EmptyPromises #EmberingEffigy / “It’s EMPTY promises…”/ “Oh, I’m sorry…#BramStroker…”/ “It’s all the same…only the name will change…”/ #BonJoviAlbumDive / “Always late to the party…”/ #standuphostility / “You could have your own podcast…you COULD get laid…that would help…”/ #AngryMattPodcast / “I’ll sit in here and listen to that…”/ “Oh it would blow past us…”/ #daretodream
(30:28): “You got any reflections Russell?” / “He could just do it from his house…”/ #TikTokASMR / “If you do #TikTok you’ve gotta be a #Kommunist and…”/ #RussellsReflectionsBedtimeEdition / “Is that shocking to you?” / “Here’s the best part…so then I go and I…strip…”/ #strippermusicASMR / #recordscratch / “It’s a thing, apparently…”/ “Here’s what I do…I just turn everything off…and boom…”/ “#BobRoss is #HumanXanax …” / #RussellsReflectionsNitaStraussEdition / “There’s tons of awesome guitar players now…but in the 80’s…there weren’t as many as there are now…”/ “Why can women do that? A dude can’t do that…”/ #uhhhkay / “Forty-one minutes in…”/ #themthey are growing #metalnerderypodcast / “That was #cathartic …” / “It’s not ALL the time…”
(41:24): #TheDocket / “It’s rainy outside, it’s gloomy, and it’s doomy…”/ METAL NERDERY PODCAST PRESENTS: STONER DOOM METAL VOL. VII – THE SEARCH FOR DOOM / “I like #HatefulMatt …”/ ***Vol. VI was our 4/20 Super special…***/ #DoomMetal / “How is Doom metal different than Stoner metal? How would you articulate the difference?” / #AcidMammoth / “All of it reverts back to #BlackSabbath …”/ “I remember hearing #Candlemass on #WREKage…” CANDLEMASS – SOLITUDE (Epicus Doomicus Metallicus – 1986) / “That’s the heaviest acoustic guitar I’ve ever heard…”/ “That’s not what I think of when I think of doom…”/ “Sabbath is the beginning, they are the #AlphaAndTheOmega…they’re #bolth…”/ #Pentagram PENTAGRAM – SIGN OF THE WOLF (Relentless – 1985) / DYING WORLD / “I got one, but I know for sure it’s doom as fuck…” / #Solace (“Put in ‘Further’…”) SOLACE – BLACK UNHOLY GROUND (Further – 2000) / “That almost sounds stonerish…”/ “This is doom to me…”/ #ElectricWizard ELECTRIC WIZARD – FUNERALOPOLIS (Dopethrone – 2000) / “It’s #bolth…” / #StonedMorose / “I’m sorry, what?” / “You always wanna fist…”/ “So far, I’ve not yet heard the vocals you’re talking about…” / “Have you ever heard of #Pallbearer Russell?” / PALLBEARER – I SAW THE END (Heartless – 2017) / “It’s like #MaidenDoom…#DoomMaiden…”/ “It’s like slowed down #Mastodon…” / “What about…that?” #Goatess GOATESS – MURPHY WAS AN OPTIMIST (Purgatory Under New Management – 2016) / “Very #Sabbath vocals…” / “This IS more doomy than stoner…it’s close.” / “Where’s the REAL difference, though? / #speedmetal vs #thrashmetal / “Obviously #weed is a reference to #stonermetal…”
(1:00:14): #TypeONegative TYPE-O-NEGATIVE – RED WATER (October Rust – 1996) / #ChristianKisses / “This album makes me wanna bang #gothchicks…”/ “Does your wife know any cute single goth chicks?” / “How about #Winter that sounds like a good name…” / WINTER – INTO DARKNESS / #notontheboat / “I hope it’s not 5 minutes in for the vocals…”/ #metronome / #awwwwwwwmannnnnnn / “He finally found one…”/ “That’s as doomy as doom gets…”/ #Cathedral CATHEDRAL – HOPKINS (THE WITCHFINDER GENERAL) (The Carnival Bizarre – 1995) / “It’s like a heavier #WASP in a way…”/ “That would be stoner metal to me…”/ #ParadiseLost / “See, that’s the control we have…”/ PARADISE LOST – ENCHANTMENT (Draconian Times – 1995) / “You know what a #pianoplayer is don’t you? It’s a #pianist…” / “Is #Evanescence #doommetal?” / “It’s like a happier Type-O…” / “I bet her poon is sticky and sloppy…”/ #Windhand WINDHAND – ORCHARD (Soma – 2013) / “The #albumcover is awesome…just take a picture of the woods in black and white…” / “This is a lot like Acid Mammoth…it’s #bolth…”/ ***Stoner Metal Volume VII: The Search For Doom Metal*** / #thrashmetal vs #speedmetal / “What’s #speedmetal?” / “Really? That’s #progressivemetal bro…”/ “It’s not #dirtysloppy…”/ “Dirty sloppy HOW?” / “Gurl, you trippin’…”/ “It’s not as clean and crisp…”/ “The next album…is more thrashy…than this one…”/ “Dopesmoker!?” / “Maybe WE create the line…when the album’s about smoking weed, that’s #stonermetal. When it’s not but it sounds like that, #doommetal…”/ “If they’re not talking about weed or drugs, it’s doom…”/ #tresleches
(1:15:28): “That’s the most common difference…” / #subjectmatter / “Let’s grab another one here…”/ #NovembersDoom NOVEMBER’S DOOM - PLAGUE BIRD (Hamartia – 2017) / “That’s doom, right?” / “It’s #Halloweeny…”/ “She thinks #ACDC is #redneckrock…”/ #BlackSabbath “This band is the #GodOfDoomMetal …”/ BLACK SABBATH – ELECTRIC FUNERAL (Paranoid – 1970) / “That’s not doom…this song is absolutely doom…”/ #PaganAltar PAGAN ALTAR – CRY OF THE BANSHEE (Mythical & Magical – 2006) / “This sounds like #victorymetal…#victorydoom…”/ #Esoteric ESOTERIC – THE ORDER OF DESTINY (The Maniacal Vale – 2008) / “There you go!” / #doomvocalsASMR / “Sasquatch on lead vocals…”/ “Those vocals sounded like the #growlyvoice from #MikaelAkerfeldt of #Opeth…”
(1:23:32): “I’m wrong, I’m wrong, totally wrong…”/ #TheObsessed THE OBSESSED – BROTHER BLUE STEEL (Lunar Womb – 1991) / “He’s eating a person…”/ “This is NOT doom…”/ “You wanna hear a fun fact?” / #Spotify / “The #micropenis of pizza…”/ “You’re getting a mushroom on the pie…”/ #UncleAcidAndTheDeadBeats UNCLE ACID AND THE DEADBEATS – DEATH’S DOOR (Blood Lust – 2011) / “That’s fuckin’ Bon Scott, dude…that’s harmony Bon Scott…”/ “Should we do one more and call it quits?” / #itsnotdoom #TheSword THE SWORD – THE WARP RIDERS (Warp Riders – 2010) / “They’re close…I think we’ve established that doom and stoner are #incestuous …” / #BonJoviASMR / “Are they stoner or are they doom?” #ILoveGoblinCock #GoblinCock #GoblinCore GOBLIN COCK – WE’VE GOT A BLEEDER (Come With Me If You Want To Live! – 2008) / “Did Goblin Cock break the mold?” / #incessuous #StonerDoomMetalVolumeSevenTheSearchForDoom / “It’s all the same…only the names will change…”/ #BonJoviAlbumDive / “That’s top tier bass material right there…”/ “Mainly because they wore cowboy hats in the video…”/ #steelhorse / ***THANK YOU FOR JOINING US!!! IF ANY OF YOU CAN TELL US THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STONER METAL AND DOOM METAL OR IF YOU HAVE ANY SHOW IDEAS, #DINGUS AND #PINGUS !!!*** / #outroreel
