Hello, I'm Mike Palmer, your host of the Mic The Gardener - Gardening Podcast, sponsored by Natural Grower.  Welcome back to this week's episode.

The Mic the Gardener Gardening Podcast has been up and running for just over a year now. In that year I have listened to more gardening podcasts than I've ever done before. One of my go-to podcasts is always Talking Heads, presented by Saul Walker and Lucy Chamberlain, who are both modern day head gardeners in private estates.

This week I'm delighted to be joined by both Saul and Lucy who chat to me about their careers to date, their roles as head gardeners in private estates and much much more.

If, like me, you listen to their podcast, you'll know I was legally obliged to start the conversation by talking about the weather, however, we also discussed:

If you haven't already listened to the Talking Heads podcast, (and I can't believe you haven't), click on this link to have a listen.

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You can also follow me on my Instagram account, @mike_thegardener where I have a live, weekly broadcast from my own garden, every Sunday at 10am (GMT).

Join me next week when I will be discussing everything you need to know about growing sweet peas from seed with leading sweet pea expert, Roger Parsons.

See you next week.