Is midlife the beginning of the end—or the start of something powerful?

In this episode of Smart Women Talk, Katana Abbott welcomes Pam DeRose and Julie Fidel, co-authors of Midlife Upgrade: A Girlfriend’s Guide to Finding Power in the Pause.

Together, they challenge outdated beliefs about menopause, hormones, sex, and self-worth—and reveal why this season of life can be a profound opportunity for renewal. You’ll learn how to stop accepting vague answers from providers, ask the questions that matter, and find strength in sisterhood. Whether you're navigating hot flashes, brain fog, or just craving deeper connection, this conversation offers guidance, community, and real talk.

Julie Fedeli is a devoted mother and passionate advocate for women’s well-being. As an inspirational entrepreneur, mentor, certified health and longevity coach, speaker, and author, Julie provides one-on-one consulting for women seeking holistic support through the complexities of midlife. Whether leading large-scale women's events or creating intimate spaces for connection in her community, she helps women gather with purpose and intention. Julie’s joy is rooted in rich experiences—delicious food, beautiful travel, inspiring art and music, daily swims, and the incredible people who surround her. Her work is guided by a deep belief in every woman’s capacity to thrive, transform, and rise.

Pamela DeRose is a wife, mother, and businesswoman whose own midlife "crisis" became the catalyst for her life's purpose: helping women navigate this transitional stage with clarity, courage, and grace. An experienced speaker, coach, and wellness advocate, Pamela equips women with practical tools to reconnect with their health, purpose, and authentic voice during midlife and beyond.When she's not supporting clients or speaking at events, Pamela can be found hosting family gatherings filled with incredible food, or enjoying peaceful strolls with her husband and beloved rescue dog, Stella. She is passionate about holding space for women ready to write their next chapter—with confidence and heart.

Connect with Julie and Pamela at midlifeupgrade.com and on IG @wearemidlifeupgrade

Disclaimer:
The content in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Always consult with your qualified healthcare provider regarding any medical concerns, diagnoses, or treatment options. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay seeking care because of something you heard on this program.