While we completely understandably obsess over the top of the Premier League up and down the country football clubs are going through their own trials and tribulations.

One was brought to The Anfield Wrap's attention on Monday night when the excellent Amber Nectar podcast beat TAW to the honour of winning the best club podcast award. In their acceptance speech they mentioned the ongoing issues with the Allam ownership.

We wanted to discuss that and so on this Midnight Caller Neil Atkinson and John Gibbons spoke to Les Motherby about the podcast, winning the award but most importantly the way the football club is run mostly out of spite and not in what appears to be its own best interest.

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