Turn your volume down and grab a glass of something. It's Mike Spinelli @mikespin and Jonny Lieberman @jonnylieberman! We talk about them sharing a Jalopnik office 17 years ago; bad press trips; embezzlement; Jonny training for Pikes Peak; M5 vs CT5-V vs Lucid; the mad Rivian and it's special birds; Drive to Survive; and a special Land Rover fan. Plus, Q&A.

Recorded on March 15, 2022

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