DAV Podcast

Mindscapes: The Science of Meaning


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In this episode of the DAV podcast, host Matt Saintsing sits down with Dr. Amelia Hall, a scholar and faculty advisor for the student veterans' group at Naropa University, to explore a transformative, holistic approach to veteran care. Rather than treating veterans from the premise that they are "broken," Dr. Hall highlights how specialized spiritual, therapeutic, and psychedelic-assisted care gives individuals the tools to heal, reclaim agency, and rewrite their own narratives. She discusses how patients—particularly military veterans process complex trauma, PTSD, and moral injury—can weave mystical or expansive experiences into their specific faith backgrounds or secular practices to foster lasting psychological change. Ultimately, the conversation underscores the value of moving away from internalized pain toward a profound shift in self-identity rooted in inherent goodness, offering listeners a clearer perspective on the breakthrough benefits of specialized mind-body medicine.

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