In this important episode, Robert is joined by Lonnie Jones — a minister, speaker, host of the Keeping Up with Jones podcast, and a licensed professional counselor — to address the critical subject of mental health among ministers. Ministry is rewarding but also uniquely stressful, often leaving preachers vulnerable to burnout, isolation, and emotional fatigue. Lonnie brings his dual perspective as both a counselor and a fellow minister to offer practical guidance, biblical insights, and personal encouragement.

If you are a preacher — or know one — who needs to hear this, don’t skip this episode. It’s okay to not be okay, and help is available.