First, the strange story of the attempted murder of Dakota Indian chief Sitting Bull at the Grand Opera House in Saint Paul in 1885.

Then, I speak to Jeff Neuberger, archivist and historian for the Saint Paul Police Historical Society, who tells the story of Abe Wagner, who was pistol-whipped to death on University Avenue by two contract killers hired by New York City's notorious Murder, Incorporated.

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First up, the story of the strange relationship between 28 year old steamfitter William Williams and 16 year old Johnny Keller in 1905 Saint Paul, which led to the murders of both Johnny and his mother Mary. 

Then, an interview with Christine Hill, who is trying to solve the murder of her grandmother's cousin, Ray Ruud, who was shot while driving his cab in East Grand Forks in 1935. 

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I'm excited to share my interview with Steve Thayer, New York Times bestselling author, about a book that was very important in my life, a book that ultimately led me on a path that would take me to creating and hosting the Most Notorious Podcast. Saint Mudd: A Novel of Gangsters and Saints, centers around a World War I-ravaged newspaperman named Grover Mudd, who gets mixed up in the seedy and violent Saint Paul underworld of the 1930s. Steve tells the compelling story about his successful and unlikely journey as an author, and what he believes made this book a surprise smash hit.

The author's Amazon page: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B000APIPWK

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In this special interview episode of Where Blood Runs Cold, I interview Sharon Henry Darby, author of Glensheen's Daughter, about the notorious Minnesota murderer and arsonist Marjorie Congdon, who besides allegedly conspiring to murder her mother Elizabeth Congdon at the famous Glensheen Mansion in Duluth, also left a trail of fire and death for the next three decades across the country. 

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In this second part to the story, a member of the Arbogast family is put on trial for murder, although it may not be someone initially suspected by police. Also, a myriad of possible motives are discussed, primarily based on an intimate relationship between two people in the family. 

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The quiet, slumbering neighborhood of Seven Corners was awakened in the early morning hours of May 13, 1909, by the terrified screams of the Arbogast family. Louis Arbogast, prosperous Saint Paul butcher, had been murdered in his bed, but the doors to the house had been locked shut, and his five daughters and wife were not talking. In part one of this story, police detectives investigate the murder, gather evidence, and focus on one particular family member with an especially suspicious past. 

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Erik Rivenes, host of the popular Most Notorious Podcast, explains why he decided to start a new podcast devoted to Minnesota true crime history, and what listeners can expect to come. 

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