Modem Futura

Join Sean Leahy and Andrew Maynard as they navigate the evolving landscape of technology and its influence on our personal and professional lives. The conversation addresses OpenAI’s Deep Research and others growing role in academic work, highlighting both its value in accelerating research and its limitations—particularly around citation accuracy and the need for genuine human interpretation. Drawing on concepts like Marshall McLuhan’s “the medium is the message” and historical analogies such as the electric light, they illustrate how one technological leap can trigger vast societal changes in the 'adjacent possible' space. Throughout, they consider the balance of gains and losses that come with rapid innovation, the merits of amateurism in driving creative breakthroughs, and the importance of responsible, permissionless innovation. Ultimately, this dialogue underscores how human ingenuity, paired with emerging technologies, can open new frontiers while preserving the essence of what makes us uniquely human.

Links: 

• OpenAI's Deep Research writes a full PhD thesis [Future of Being Human initiative Substack] 
• The Medium is the Massage (1967) - Marshall McLuhan & Quentin Fiore [Book]
• OpenAI's Announcement of their GPT Roadmap 

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu

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Host Bios:

Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.

Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.

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In this episode of Modem Futura, hosts Sean Leahy and Andrew Maynard discuss the evolving landscape of AI and its implications for humanity. This episode highlights the challenges and frustrations faced when using AI tools, particularly in academic contexts, while also emphasizing the exciting possibilities that arise from the partnership between humans and AI. In this episode the hosts take a close look at their experience with the newly released Deep Research from OpenAI Pro and share initial impressions and some suggestions for much needed improvement. They discuss how AI can generate new ideas, challenge traditional academic perspectives, and enhance the research process. Drawing on philosophical insights, including Heidegger’s (1954) views on technology pitfalls of 'gestell' (enframing), they examine the existential risks of over-reliance on AI and emphasize the importance of critical thinking in navigating technological change. Throughout the discussion, they advocate for a nuanced, flexible approach to technology adoption and scientific discourse, underscoring the value of the knowledge-seeking journey itself.

Links: 

• OpenAI's Deep Research
• Heidegger (1954) The Question Concerning Technology 

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu

Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura

Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura

Host Bios:

Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.

Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.

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Andrew Maynard, Sean Leahy, and special guest Mark Daly explore the rapid advancements in AI technology with a spotlight on OpenAI's 01 Pro model. They examine how AI is reshaping game development, creative industries, and research, and discuss the urgent need for academia to adapt to these changes. The panel also tackles ethical issues in education, emphasizing the importance of maintaining human values amid rapid technological progress.

Highlighting AI's transformative potential for Gen Z, the conversation explores experiential learning and the benefits of personalized AI tutors (evoking Neal Stephenson's 'The Diamond Age'). The discussion further explores the impact of open-source models like DeepSeek on AI safety and accessibility, and considers the broader geopolitical and regulatory challenges that come with AI's evolution. Finally, the speakers reflect on the philosophical and practical implications of a future where powerful, personalized AI tools become widely available, underscoring the need for interdisciplinary collaboration to navigate this new landscape.

Links: 

• Mark Daley [LinkedIn]
• Noetic engines [Mark's Substack]
• Frontier AI systems have surpassed the self-replicating red line - [Arxiv.org article]
• The Bitter Lesson (Rich Sutton)

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu

Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura

Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura

Host Bios:

Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.

Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.

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In this conversation, Sean Leahy and Andrew Maynard discuss the rapid developments in AI technology, particularly focusing on the newly announced Stargate AI initiative. They explore the implications of the inauguration week, the political landscape surrounding AI regulation, and the potential economic impacts of this massive investment in AI infrastructure. The discussion also touches on historical parallels, public perception, and the ambitious claims made during the press conference announcing the initiative. Andrew and Sean also explore the transformative potential of AI and mRNA vaccines in medicine, the ethical implications of tech companies' responsibilities, and the societal risks associated with unchecked technological advancement. They discuss the concept of 'enshitification,' where companies prioritize profit over user experience, and emphasize the need for responsible development and regulation in the tech industry. In this conversation, the hosts explore the implications of corporate power in the context of AI development, the merging of corporate and governmental roles, and the potential dystopian futures that may arise. They discuss the responsibilities of society in shaping AI's trajectory, the energy demands of AI infrastructure, and the gamble of sacrificing current quality of life for future benefits. The conversation emphasizes the importance of quality control in innovation and ends on a note of optimism, urging individuals to engage in discussions about the future of AI and its impact on human flourishing.

Links: 

• OpenAI's Stargate Announcement
• Cory Doctrow's 'Enshittification' 
• CNN's Coverage of Project Stargate 

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu

Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura

Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura

Host Bios:

Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.

Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.

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In this engaging conversation, Sean Leahy and Andrew Maynard explore the rapid developments in technology as we enter 2025. They discuss the implications of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), the potential for superintelligence, and the ethical considerations surrounding these advancements. The conversation also touches on the creation of synthetic personas in social media and the challenges of distinguishing between real and artificial interactions. The hosts explore the implications of synthetic personas and data, the concept of the dead internet, and the future of AI technology. They discusses the potential dangers of social media manipulation, the ethical considerations of using synthetic data for research, and the responsibilities that come with democratizing AI technology. The conversation emphasizes the need for critical thinking and ethical awareness as we navigate the evolving landscape of AI and digital interactions.

Links:

• Sam Altman's blog post on AGI 
• AI Social Media Users Not Always a Totally Dumb Idea (Wired)
• Meta's AI-generated bot profiles are not being received well (The Verge)
• The 'dead internet theory' makes eerie claims about an AI-run web. The truth is more sinister (UNSW Sydney)
• NVIDIA Jetson Orin Nano Super DEveloper Kit ($249)
• NVIDIA Project DIGITS A Grace Blackwell AI Supercomputer on your desk ($3k)

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu

Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura

Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura

Host Bios:

Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.

Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.

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Sean and Andrew are joined by Brunno Moretti (President of ADAS Solutions, Ascential Technologies) for a conversation that explores the current state and futures of autonomous vehicles, particularly focusing on RoboTaxis, the challenges faced in their development, and the implications of public testing. We get Brunno's expert input on the differences between LIDAR and camera systems in autonomous driving technology, the levels of autonomy, and the role of Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS) in enhancing vehicle safety. In this enlightening conversation, we discuss and emphasize the importance of designing systems that not only match human capabilities but exceed them, while also addressing the ethical considerations of testing these technologies in public spaces, and cover topics such as the complexities of automotive technology, focusing on the limitations of current systems, the importance of safety standards, and the challenges posed by cost and calibration. The discussion also highlights some eyebrow-raising challenges on the hidden dangers of sensor calibration, and the future of autonomous vehicles, particularly Tesla's ambitious robo-taxi plans.

Links: 

• Brunno Moretti - connect on LinkedIn 
• Brunno Moretti - Forbes Technology Council
• Automated Vehicles for Safety (NHSTA)

Special Acknowledgment 
We'd like to acknowledge the partial funding support provided by the US Department of Transportation-sponsored Travel Behavior and Demand National University Transportation Center led by The University of Texas at Austin. The Center, of which Arizona State University is a consortium member, has helped make this podcast episode, and the research we're discussing, possible

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu

Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura

Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura

Host Bios:

Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.

Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.

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In this engaging conversation with Sean and Andrew, Cady Coleman, a former NASA astronaut, shares her experiences and insights from her time in space, the importance of recognition in the space culture, and the evolving dynamics between human and robotic roles in space exploration. The discussion also touches on the significance of efficiency in operations, the personal touch of bringing books to space, and the challenges faced in preparing humans for deeper space missions. Cady's new book, 'Sharing Space', offers a glimpse into her journey and the lessons learned along the way. In this episode, Cady shares her experiences and insights on the importance of diversity in space exploration, the impact of representation in media, and the role of storytelling in inspiring future generations. The discussions explore the challenges of designing inclusive spacesuits, the significance of human elements in space missions, and the psychological aspects of one-way trips to Mars. The discussion also touches on the differences between commercial and government space exploration and the collaborative efforts that drive progress in the field. Cady expresses hope for the future of human space exploration, emphasizing the need for education and support for the next generation of explorers.

Links: 

• Cady Colman - https://www.cadycoleman.com 
• Get a personalized copy of "Sharing Space" from Cady's website
• Watch Cady in the film "The Longest Goodbye" [Trailer]
• Intuitive Machines 

Chapters

00:00 Next Steps: IM-2 Mission and Innovations

00:27 Exploring the Culture at Intuitive Machines

03:25 The Importance of Efficiency in Space Missions

06:35 Katie Coleman's Journey and Achievements

09:38 Books and Inspiration in Space

12:40 Challenges in Space Exploration and Team Dynamics

14:11 Embracing Differences for Progress

15:14 Experiencing Space: The First Morning

21:00 The Role of Humans vs. Robots in Space

27:34 Preparing Humans for Long-Distance Space Travel

38:22 Diversity in Space Exploration

42:50 The Power of Storytelling in Inspiring Future Generations

46:32 Normalizing Leadership in Space Exploration

49:35 The Human Element of Space Missions

52:51 Public Fascination with Space and Its Challenges

57:11 The Psychology of One-Way Space Missions

01:02:15 Commercial vs. Government Space Exploration

01:06:15 Building Bridges in International Space Collaboration

01:09:21 Future Aspirations for Human Space Exploration

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu

Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura

Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura

Host Bios:

Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.

Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.

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In this engaging conversation, Sean and Andrew are joined by Joe O'Rourke and Caitlin Roe to explore a variety of topics ranging from the new ChatGPT phone feature to significant advancements in space exploration in 2024. They discuss the Europa Clipper mission, the implications of feminist theory in space exploration, and the importance of care in technology development. The dialogue is filled with humor and insightful commentary on the future of technology and space missions. In this conversation, the panel discusses various themes surrounding technology, particularly focusing on the Apple Vision Pro, virtual reality, and its implications for education and space exploration. They explore the advancements in consumer electronics, the potential of immersive experiences, and the role of AI and Neuralink in enhancing accessibility. The discussion also touches on the impact of visual data in space missions and the future of immersive experiences in education and entertainment. The conversation explores the evolving landscape of technology, focusing on the intersection of emerging technologies, human interaction, and ethical considerations. They discuss the implications of biological intelligence, quantum computing breakthroughs, and the future of AI, while also reflecting on the potential of generative AI in creative expression. The retrospective-prospective highlights the excitement and uncertainty surrounding these advancements, emphasizing the need for thoughtful engagement with the future of technology, with a look ahead to 2025! 

Links: 

• Joe O'Rourke
• Caitlin Roe
• World Economic Forum Top 10 Emerging Technologies 2024
• Black Magic Release Immersive camera 
• Future Today Institute Annual Letter 2024 > 2025
• Gartner Top 10 Trends for 2025
• NASA Voyager Interstellar Messengers 
• NASA Europa Clipper Mission to Jupiter's Icy Moon 

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu

Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura

Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura

Host Bios:

Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.

Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.

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In this lively and thought-provoking episode, Sean and Andrew team up with Ed Finn, Ruth Wylie, and Bob Beard from ASU’s Center for Science and the Imagination for a rapid-fire discussion on the future of humanity. Together, they explore themes like the values that will shape our future, the role of kindness in communities, AI's potential role in governance, and how humor evolves alongside technology.

The conversation delves into fascinating intersections between technology, nature, and human experience. Topics include plant communication, the Gaia hypothesis, the future of transportation and tourism, the evolution of universities, and the existential question: does the future need humanity? This engaging live discussion underscores the importance of balancing technological progress with a deeper connection to nature and community.

Links:

• ASU Center for Science and the Imagination
• Ed Finn
• Ruth Wylie
• Bob Beard

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Future of Being Human Initiative

02:40 Exploring Values in the Future

05:02 The Role of Kindness in Future Societies

12:50 AI, Politics, and the Future of Governance

19:23 The Future of Humor and AI

26:22 Interpreting Communication in Nature

27:38 Plant Communication and Intelligence

30:57 The Gaia Hypothesis and Planetary Awareness

33:41 Technology vs. Nature: A Double-Edged Sword

34:37 The Future of Transportation and Tourism

39:18 The Evolution of Universities in the Future

44:25 The Role of Kindness in Future Communities

48:25 Does the Future Need Us?

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu

Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura

Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura

Host Bios:

Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.

Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.

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In this episode of Modum Futura Live, Sean and Andrew explore the concept of digital realities and simulated worlds. They discuss the technological advancements that have made immersive virtual and augmented realities possible, the ethical implications of creating such environments, and the potential impact on human experiences and growth. The conversation gets into the balance between the allure of simulated experiences and the necessity of real-life challenges for personal development. In this engaging conversation, Sean and Andrew explore the complexities of human growth, the implications of simulated realities, and the ethical considerations surrounding technology. They discuss the necessity of adversity for personal development, the potential moral dilemmas of escapist digital environments, and the addictive nature of modern platforms. The conversation also raises the issue of ownership and diversity in virtual worlds, the paradox of fiction, and the future of technology in shaping human experiences. 

Sean and Andrew recorded this episode in front of a live studio audience. Modem Futura was hosted at the Pub as part of the Thunderbird School of Global Management, located in Downtown Phoenix Arizona. 

Links: 

• Thunderbird School of Global Management - https://thunderbird.asu.edu 
• Simulated Reality Definition [wikipedia] 

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu

Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura

Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura

Host Bios:

Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.

Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.

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