Modern Husbands Podcast

Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as a Certified Financial Therapist, Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today’s episode is the second of two with our guest Dr. David Smith and Dr. Brad Johnson, authors of Fair Share. If you missed the first, be sure to scroll one episode back before listening to this episode.

In this episode, we explore how men can become more effective allies at work and more supportive partners at home. They discuss practical strategies for normalizing caregiving, reducing workplace bias, supporting women's careers through sponsorship rather than good intentions, and creating more equitable opportunities for everyone. Listeners will walk away with simple, actionable ideas they can apply immediately to strengthen their relationships, workplaces, and leadership. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:24 You two recently released your latest book, Fair Share: How Men and Women Can Create a More Equitable Workplace Together. Can you share a broad overview of the book?
03:59 When men lean into their caregiving roles, take parental leave, use flex-work benefits, and talk openly about their obligations outside the office, how does this reduce the stigma associated with caregiving—for everyone?
12:03 What frustrations do professional women often feel that are usually unique to them? 
15:34 How can their spouses support them from inside their own homes?
23:03 What simple and actionable advice do you want to leave our listeners with today?
27:01 Where can folks purchase Fair Share?

Purchase the book: https://www.workplaceallies.com/ 

Subscribe or follow Modern Husbands on social media!

Newsletter
Facebook
YouTube
LinkedIn
Instagram
Twitter
TikTok
Substack

Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as a Certified Financial Therapist, Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today’s episode is the first of two with our guests Dr. David Smith and Dr. Brad Johnson, authors of Fair Share, to explore how creating more gender-fair workplaces begins with changing the systems that shape leadership, caregiving, and opportunity. Drawing on decades of research and personal experience, they discuss why men play a critical role as mentors, allies, and equal partners at work and at home, and how organizations can move beyond individual actions to create lasting structural change. Whether you're a leader, partner, or parent, this conversation offers practical insights into building more equitable workplaces and stronger relationships. Enjoy the show

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:43 What motivated you to get started thinking about and researching how men can be more inclusive leaders and better collaborators and allies with women (what’s your personal connection to this work)?
09:54 How is gender collaboration at work deeply connected to equity and fairness at home?
13:31 How do you each promote this at work? 

Purchase the book: https://www.workplaceallies.com/ 

Subscribe or follow Modern Husbands on social media!

Newsletter
Facebook
YouTube
LinkedIn
Instagram
Twitter
TikTok
Substack

Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as a Certified Financial Therapist, Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today’s episode is with Dr. Jordan Grumet, author of The Purpose Code and the newly released, The Healthcare Heist. 

In this episode, Dr. Jordan Grumet discusses the systemic issues plaguing the US healthcare system, including profit motives, third-party entrenchment, and the potential for revolutionary change through stakeholder unity. He shares personal stories, practical advice for patients, and insights into how we can push for a more humane and efficient healthcare system.

Enjoy the show.

00:00: Introduction
2:30: Your book is titled The Healthcare Heist. Who exactly is benefiting from the current healthcare system, and how are both patients and healthcare professionals paying the price?
4:17: At Modern Husbands, we talk a lot about the “mental load” families carry. Healthcare decisions often become part of that invisible labor. How does the complexity of the healthcare system create additional stress inside marriages and families?
11:44 You argue that patients and doctors are often pushed into conflict with one another. How do insurance companies, private equity, and large healthcare systems profit when trust breaks down between physicians and patients?
18:46 One of the themes we discuss frequently is that systems shape behavior. How does the business model of modern healthcare reward speed, volume, and profit over listening, empathy, and prevention?
21:44 What practical steps can patients take to become better advocates for themselves and their families during medical appointments, especially when they feel rushed or intimidated?
33:12 For couples trying to manage healthcare, caregiving responsibilities, and financial stress as a team, what mindset shifts or conversations would you encourage them to start having today?
41:13 Where can our listeners purchase your book?
41:58 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to leave our listeners with?

Where to purchase Dr. G’s books: https://jordangrumet.com/ 

#healthcare #personalfinance 

Subscribe or follow Modern Husbands on social media!

Newsletter
Facebook
YouTube
LinkedIn
Instagram
Twitter
TikTok
Substack

Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as a Certified Financial Therapist, Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today’s episode is the second of two with our guest Dr. Hart. If you missed the first, you can scroll back an episode before listening to this one. Dr. John Hart is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, researcher, speaker, and proud husband and father of fraternal twins. In our previous episode, Dr. Hart shared the realities of raising twins, including the financial surprises, emotional challenges, and parenting lessons that come with having multiples. As we continue the conversation in this episode, Dr. Hart explains how intentional communication, proactive partnership, and engaged fatherhood have strengthened his marriage and family, while offering insights from both his professional work as a therapist and his lived experience as a Black father. Enjoy the show.

00:00 Introduction
01:25 In counseling other parents with multiples, what have you noticed to be the primary challenges?
02:35 What strategies did you and your wife use to manage the parenting demands of multiples, from diapers and childcare to education and extracurricular activities? 
12:24 As a Black father, did you encounter any unique cultural or community expectations while raising twins, and how did those experiences shape your parenting journey?
18:59 We end all our podcasts, with asking this question: What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to leave our listeners with?
20:24 Where can our listeners learn more about you and the work you are doing?

Learn more: https://rccmaryland.com/

#Fatherhood #Parenthood

Subscribe or follow Modern Husbands on social media!

Newsletter
Facebook
YouTube
LinkedIn
Instagram
Twitter
TikTok
Substack

Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as a Certified Financial Therapist, Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today’s episode is the first of two with our guest Dr. John Hart, a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, researcher, speaker, proud husband, and father of fraternal twins. His favorite role is being “Dad” to his twins. Dr. Hart shares the realities of raising twins, including the financial surprises, emotional challenges, and parenting lessons that come with having multiples. Enjoy the show.

00:00 Introduction
01:08 When you first learned you were having twins, what went through your mind as a father, and how did it change the way you thought about parenting and finances?
05:18 What expenses truly double? 
08:25 How does your professional background as a licensed marriage and family therapist and working with fathers provide a unique insight into understanding your own journey with fatherhood?
09:15 As someone who studies fathers professionally, what did becoming a father teach you that research alone never could?
19:38 What are some of the unique joys and challenges of raising multiples that you have noticed that parents of single children might not fully understand?
Learn more: https://rccmaryland.com/

#fatherhood #parenting #twins

Subscribe or follow Modern Husbands on social media!

Newsletter
Facebook
YouTube
LinkedIn
Instagram
Twitter
TikTok
Substack

Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as a Certified Financial Therapist, Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today’s episode is the second part of a two part conversation with Dr. Leah Ruppanner. We discuss the eight types of mental load, how couples can share these responsibilities more equitably, and practical strategies to reduce stress and support each other's dreams. This is a must-listen for anyone looking to improve relationship dynamics and mental well-being. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:41 What are the eight types of mental load?
02:31 How can couples approach understanding how to share life management?
15:24 Let’s move onto sharing the emotional support needed to manage a family, that is, checking in on family, friends, and coworkers. 
18:32 A conversation about magic making.
22:08 What is dream building, and how can men help women fulfill their passions and ambitions? 
24:26 Individual upkeep is how we stay fit and healthy. What can men do to make sure their partners have enough time to do this?
28:47 The next type of mental load is safety. How can parents work together to share this load?
32:22 The final type of mental load I want to talk about is meta-care, which is raising children who will thrive in the future. Walk listeners through how parents can balance providing our kids with the opportunity to thrive in the future, but not at the expense of finding joy in the process.
36:03 Right now you’re battling Breast Cancer. How has the American health care system impacted the mental load for you in this fight
37:36: Please remind listeners where they can purchase your book, Drained.
39:05 What is one simple and actionable takeaway you want to leave our listeners with?

Lighten Lab: https://www.lightenlab.com/ 
More About Dr. Ruppanner: https://www.leahruppanner.com/ 
Purchase Drained: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762972/drained-by-leah-ruppanner-phd/ 

#mentalload #invisiblelabor #marriagetips 

Subscribe or follow Modern Husbands on social media!

Newsletter
Facebook
YouTube
LinkedIn
Instagram
Twitter
TikTok
Substack

Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as a Certified Financial Therapist, Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today’s episode is the first of two with our guest Professor Leah Ruppanner. We explore the complex concept of mental load, its impact on women and families, and practical strategies to achieve greater equity and understanding in household responsibilities. Discover how to measure, manage, and support mental load to foster healthier relationships and personal well-being. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
2:30 Why did it feel as if you were approaching this as a therapist?
5:24 How do you define the mental load?
9:13 What are the eight types of mental loads?
22:45 Walk us through the pressures that are usually unique to women around household responsibilities and caregiving.
28:37 You ask couples to participate in a mental load audit. Can you explain what that is and how it can be done?
36:31 We know from research that most men want to do more at home, and are trying to figure out how. Let’s start with this. How can men convince their wives to take on less at home?
41:00 Where can listeners purchase Drained.

Lighten Lab: https://www.lightenlab.com/ 
More About Dr. Ruppanner: https://www.leahruppanner.com/ 
Purchase Drained: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762972/drained-by-leah-ruppanner-phd/ 

#mentalload #invisiblelabor #marriagetips 

Subscribe or follow Modern Husbands on social media!

Newsletter
Facebook
YouTube
LinkedIn
Instagram
Twitter
TikTok
Substack

Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as a Certified Financial Therapist, Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today’s episode is the second of two with our guest Stefanie O'Connell. Stephanie is a personal finance expert, speaker, and author of The Ambition Penalty, a book that explores the hidden financial and career costs ambitious women face in the workplace and at home. Through her writing, media appearances, and advocacy, she helps women build wealth, navigate unequal systems, and pursue career success without sacrificing financial independence or personal fulfillment.

In today's second of a two part series with Stefanie, we explore the gender disparities in ambition, pay, and leadership with data-driven insights and practical solutions to foster equity and support women's career growth inside our homes. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:19 How can couples better protect both partners’ ambitions over the long term?
12:23 What do you wish more men understood about ambitious women?
16:45 What conversations are you hoping couples have after reading this book?
18:55 Where can people purchase your book?
21:!4 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to leave our listeners with? 

Subscribe or follow Modern Husbands on social media!

Newsletter
Facebook
YouTube
LinkedIn
Instagram
Twitter
TikTok
Substack

Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as a Certified Financial Therapist, Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today’s episode is the first of two with our guest Stefanie O'Connell. Stephanie is a personal finance expert, speaker, and author of The Ambition Penalty, a book that explores the hidden financial and career costs ambitious women face in the workplace and at home. Through her writing, media appearances, and advocacy, she helps women build wealth, navigate unequal systems, and pursue career success without sacrificing financial independence or personal fulfillment.

In today's first of two episodes with Stefanie, we explore the gender disparities in ambition, pay, and leadership with data-driven insights and practical solutions to foster equity and support women's career growth inside our homes. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
03:45 What inspired you to write The Ambition Penalty?
06:13 How do you define “ambition” differently from traditional career culture?
12:04 You reported that only 31% of women said they were proud to call themselves ambitious, despite more than half personally identifying as ambitious. Why is this the case?
18:13 How does unequal household labor directly affect women’s career trajectories?
25:05 What are some subtle ways well-meaning men unintentionally undermine their partner’s ambitions?

Subscribe or follow Modern Husbands on social media!

Newsletter
Facebook
YouTube
LinkedIn
Instagram
Twitter
TikTok
Substack

Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Carl Richards for the second of a two part series. Carl is a Certified Financial Planner™ and bestselling author known for turning complex money ideas into simple, powerful insights. He created The Sketch Guy column for The New York Times, where for a decade he used nothing but cardstock and a Sharpie to help readers rethink their relationship with money. 

Carl built and sold a successful investment firm and has spoken at financial events around the world. His books, including The Behavior Gap, The One-Page Financial Plan, and his latest, Your Money: Reimagining Wealth in 101 Simple Sketches, have reached a global audience and been translated into multiple languages. Through Behavior Gap Radio and his newest project 50 Fires, he continues to explore how money intersects with meaning, relationships, and a well-lived life. Enjoy the second of our two part series with Carl. We will pick up where we left off from our last episode. Enjoy the show!

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
06:24 Many couples struggle not just with money decisions, but with who thinks about the money. How do you see the mental load showing up in financial management? 
5:50 What advice would you give couples where one partner is the “default financial manager” and the other is disengaged?
17:58 Why do we keep making the same money mistakes even when we “know better”?
23:55 You’ve said “getting ahead is a trap.” That’s countercultural. What should people aim for instead?
29:10 Rapid fire questions: For these questions, say the questions back and provide a succinct instinctual response:
One money belief you’ve changed your mind about?
A financial rule people should break?
A financial rule people should never break?
Best way to start a money conversation with your spouse?
One word you want people to associate with money?
34:38 Where can listeners learn more about you and purchase your new book, Your Money?
35:39 If listeners take away just one idea from your work, what do you hope it is?

Purchase Carl's book on Amazon, or folks can head to their favorite local bookstore: https://www.amazon.com/Your-Money-Reimagining-Wealth-Sketches/dp/1804091715

Listeners can save an additional 5% by using the code YourMoney5 at checkout. https://bulkbooks.com/products/your-money-reimagining-wealth-in-simple-sketches

Follow Carl on social media:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/thinkingcarl/
https://x.com/behaviorgap
https://www.instagram.com/behaviorgap

#money #personalfinance #masculinity 

Subscribe or follow Modern Husbands on social media!

Newsletter
Facebook
YouTube
LinkedIn
Instagram
Twitter
TikTok
Substack