On this episode, Ann and Tarik interview Chef Alex Hanesakda of Sapsap about his upcoming event, "Rivers Run Deep," happening at Cactus Club at 3 p.m. this Saturday, April 12. The event commemorates five decades since Oceanian refugees arrived in the United States after the Vietnam War, focusing on the often-overlooked history of the war in Laos and the genocide in Cambodia.

Chef Alex discusses the symbolism of the Mekong River in his family's escape from Laos, and highlights how breakdancing connected Southeast Asian immigrants with Black and Brown communities in Milwaukee. The conversation also touches on the hypocrisy of anti-immigrant sentiments alongside the popularity of immigrant food.

Alex explains that Lao Oceanian cuisine at events like "Rivers Run Deep" aims to share the stories and struggles behind the food and preserve cultural memory. He also shares a few of the meaningful ingredients from the culture, like lemongrass and fish sauce.

In addition to the chat with Chef Alex, Ann and Tarik also touch on budget-friendly Monday night bites in Milwaukee from Paloma Taco & Tequila, Lucky Joe's and The Vanguard.