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By Amirra Condelee, OTD, OTR/L
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You know what the motto is over here: There is nothing wrong with enjoying what you do, loving your profession, helping people, AND wanting to be paid well to do it. In today’s episode, we’re talking all about knowing your worth and getting paid what you need, want, and most importantly - deserve! Our guest shares how she made well over six figures in her first year as an OT—without leaving clinician practice. She’ll explain how negotiating confidently played a key role in making it happen. Plus, we talk about student loans, time freedom, and the importance of financial balance. If you’re ready to boost your income, stand in your power, and never settle for less, this episode will give you all the inspiration and practical tips to get there!
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Originally from Indiana, I have been passionate about sports, fitness, and health since I was young. I earned my B.S. from Purdue University in West Lafayette, IN, and then moved to Pittsburgh, PA, to complete my Doctorate in Occupational Therapy. During my clinical training, I gained valuable experience working in ICU Burn and Trauma at Cook County Hospital in Chicago, IL, as well as in outpatient pediatrics. Currently, I am a licensed Occupational Therapist in both California and Indiana. In California, I worked in sub-acute rehab primarily with the adult and geriatric patient population primarily from low income or unhoused households. I am now excited to be in the process of opening my own private practice in my hometown of Indianapolis, Indiana in early 2025. In my free time, I enjoy hiking with my husband and our dog, staying active through strength training, trying new restaurants and tackling DIY projects around our home.
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Is occupational therapy a dying profession? Depending on who you ask, you might hear it is. Scroll through any OT Facebook group, and you'll find comments about burnout, dissatisfaction, and people leaving the field. But while this may reflect some people’s truth, it doesn’t represent most of us who love what we do and value our profession, even if we wish to see changes. In today’s episode, I’m sharing my take: Why are people saying this? Is there any truth to it? Plus, I’ll give my honest opinion on recommending this field to others and tips for those feeling burnt out—how to reignite your passion. Bottom line: OT isn’t dying…but OT as we know it is changing - as it should. Just as we as practitioners are constantly growing and evolving, our profession has to grow and evolve too.
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Is it possible to graduate OT school debt free? The answer just might surprise you. In a time where it feels like literally all of us are drowning in student loan debt, I’m here to share a very special story of someone who has decided to do things differently and is on track to graduate with absolutely no debt. But just because it’s possible doesn’t mean it’s easy. Our guest shares how she’s overcome obstacles, beliefs, and misconceptions to keep a promise to herself to avoid student loans. We’ll also dive into the power of scholarships, creative ways to earn money as an OT student, and intentional money-saving strategies. Whether you’re a pre-OT or current OT student—or even if you’re already in debt—this episode will inspire you to be bold, brave, and different whether it’s in your financial journey or your career as an OT… because sometimes, being different is the key to the biggest rewards.
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Shanmin is a second year masters of occupational therapy student based in Michigan. She graduated with her Bachelor’s degree in sociology from Wayne State University in 2021. She also works part-time as Executive Assistant of Taking OTs Online, a business that helps occupational therapists create their own online businesses.
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Happy August! I can't believe we're already halfway through the year. Today is a very special episode because...it's my birthday! If you know me, you know I'm a big birthday person. In this episode, I share some of my life lessons and reflections as I enter a new decade, new season, and new chapter of life - with lots of big surprises along the way. Plus, I also sprinkle in a little personal student loan update and an important reminder to still enjoy your life even while paying back those pesky loans.
trigger warning: episode contains themes of pregnancy; loss, grief, announcement
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The new grad season is such an exciting time, but there’s also a lot to juggle as we enter this new chapter of our lives. Instead of studying for exams and going to class, we’re learning to navigate paying bills, finding a job with benefits, and knowing what to do with our paychecks. In today’s episode, I’m joined by Paige Leite better known online as P the OT to talk all about the importance of building and prioritizing a healthy money mindset even as a new graduate. Paige is an occupational therapist with about 3 years experience working in a variety of settings. She decided to jump into travel therapy as a new graduate and one of the reasons was so that she could maximize her income in order to tackle her massive student loan debt. We also chat about what it’s been like navigating the financial side of adulting, her plans for early retirement, paying off her loans, and so much more. This conversation is the perfect dose of inspiration as you learn to juggle your career as an OT while also building and prioritizing a healthy money mindset, advocating for your worth, knowing your worth and ultimately the steps to take so that you can establish a firm financial foundation and find your financial footing.
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Paige Leite, MOT, OTR/L, CSRS is the face behind P the OT. She is an occupational therapist with about 3 years of experience, starting her career in travel therapy as a new graduate working in outpatient neuro, skilled nursing, and acute care. Travel therapy allowed her to pay off over $70,000 in student loan debt in 2 years. She is now permanent staff working in critical care, mainly with cardiac patients and uses instagram as a side hustle to help other OT practitioners. Paige has a passion for neuro and recently received her Certified Stroke Rehabilitation Specialist (CSRS) certification. She created her page to help therapists improve their clinical skills and learn about the travel therapy world.
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OT school for me was one of the most profound seasons of my life. It’s the season where I can wholeheartedly say I experienced the most tremendous amount of growth as a young adult. And although I may have made many mistakes while in OT school, I truly look back on this time with absolutely nothing but gratitude and happiness. In today’s episode, I’m sharing about my time in OT school in hopes of inspiring those of you who are maybe preparing to begin school or are currently attending school. Of course, I’ll also be sharing tips and tricks related to navigating the transition from undergrad to graduate level learning, choosing your OT program, studying, the finances, preparing for fieldwork, maintaining a social life, and of course the sheer balancing act of it all. Whether you’re in your first year, last year, or have already graduated, I’m sure you’ll get something out of this episode. Because if there’s one thing we all have in common, it’s that we experienced OT school, the good, the bad, and everything in between. We’ve all got our stories, our own unfiltered truth about what it was like navigating OT school, and I’m ready to share mine.
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Have you ever wondered what it’s like to be a travel occupational therapist? Well, in today’s episode I’m joined by Paige Rickman, OTR/L who is an occupational therapist that took the leap into travel therapy as a new graduate and has been absolutely thriving in her career. In this conversation, Paige shares what sparked her initial interest in travel therapy, how she’s navigated some of the initial challenges she faced, what the more rewarding aspects of being a travel therapist have been, and also gives an abundance of advice, practical tips and tricks for new grads interested in becoming a travel therapist.
This episode is jam packed with so many insightful tips from Paige and we really dive into this misconception that new graduates can’t or shouldn’t pursue travel therapy. She is a walking testament of someone who has decided to tune out the noise, trust her instincts, and pursue the OT path that lights her up. And I love that, I absolutely love that for her. So whether you’re interested in travel therapy or not, this conversation is a good one because Paige is an incredible reminder that you can achieve some amazing things in your career as an OT as long as you’ve got some tenacity, initiative, confidence, and of course, an open mind.
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I graduated with my masters in OT from Indiana State University in December 2021 where I also got my undergrad degree in exercise science. I took some time off after taking my boards to live with my husband (then boyfriend) in Austria where he was playing basketball at the time. My situation is a little unique because of my husband's job, so currently we live in Japan during basketball season (roughly August-May), then in the summer I will be doing travel assignments until the season starts again in august. This year I came home early because I wanted to get some school experience so we are going back to long distance until May. All through school, travel OT was the LAST thing I wanted to do (also has NO idea what setting I wanted to be in) but with our lifestyle it really is just what was going to work out the best and i ended up LOVING it. I am currently in my 5th travel assignment and have worked with 2 different agencies in various settings (SNF, OP peds, EI, acute care, inpatient, OP/IP neuro with tons of TBI/behavior patients and now I am in a school setting). As of right now my end goal would be to work in a NICU setting (this could totally change lol, i want to try as many settings as I can), but for the way our life if right now travel is what works the best and it definitely helps that I love it.
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It’s officially occupational therapy month! Happy OT month to all of the incredible OT practitioners out there making your mark on our profession, and changing the world. Today on the show we're joined by Nancy Yamoah, OTP who is a light in our profession, and truly embodies what it means to be a fulfilled and happy OT entrepreneur. In this conversation, we dive into how we as clinicians can reignite our passion for OT by pivoting into different areas of our profession, and exploring entrepreneurship, non traditional paths, and so much more. Although OT isn’t perfect, Nancy and I both believe we all have the ability to really turn this career into the perfect for each of us based on our unique interests, skills, and abilities.
Regardless of where you are on your OT journey, this is the episode you need to hear to remind you of your why and the initial light that you drew you into OT. I hope it inspires you, motivates you, helps you to reignite your love and passion for this beautiful profession we get to share together. After all, I think that’s what OT month is all about. Celebrating what we do and who we are as OTPs!
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Nancy Yamoah, OTP is a seasoned entrepreneur and occupational therapist dedicated to empowering clinicians to thrive beyond traditional practice. As the founder of Lovelyy Consults, Nancy leverages her diverse entrepreneurial background, which includes pioneering ventures in eBay clothing e-commerce, makeup artistry, tutoring, and digital product creation. With three ebooks under her belt and a wealth of experience in organizing workshops, providing 1:1 consulting services, and hosting transformative retreats for clinicians, Nancy is passionate about helping her peers unlock their potential and achieve financial freedom through entrepreneurship. Her mission is clear: to assist 100 clinicians in 2024 in jumpstarting their entrepreneurial journey, both online and offline.
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I love OT and I love what we do as OTs but I can’t help but to feel like we’re not spending enough time talking about the real issues in this profession that are impacting so many of us; from burn out to unrealistic productivity expectations to pay stagnation to crippling student loan debt. Every profession has its drawbacks and flaws - but I truly believe a large majority of the issues OTs are facing all tie back to one thing: money. So, in today’s episode we’re getting right to the heart of it and breaking down the money matters that need to be brought to the light in this profession. What does money have to do with the emphasis on starting businesses? Is entrepreneurship the new gold standard in this profession? Is traditional OT fading into the background? What does money have to do with the push to start businesses? Is money an underlying factor in the rapid rate of burn out OTs are experiencing? And lastly, why are we feeling guilty for wanting to make more money as OTs? I’m ready to dive into it all and give my honest hot takes because money is a real part of life, money matters in the real world, money matters to us as adults, and money matters in occupational therapy.
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Independent Contracting. Two words that might make you raise an eyebrow especially if you’re a student or a fresh new graduate because contracting is just not something covered extensively in our OT programs. But - just because it isn’t covered, doesn’t mean it should be ignored or overlooked. Independent contracting can be an amazing income boosting opportunity especially for OTs looking for ways to maximize your earning potential.
In today’s episode we’re joined by Carol Alvarez, an OTP, tax literacy coach, and founder of Therapy Not Taxes, a tax consulting business for independent contractors. Carol and I discuss the key differences between independent contracting vs employee positions, how to understand and lower your tax bill, common expenses you can deduct, and so much more. I’m excited for you to hear this one and gain more valuable insight into the world of contracting because as I always say, it’s not about how much money you make, it’s about how much you keep in your pocket and when done right, contracting can help you keep way more of your hard earned money.
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Meet Carol, the dynamic force and OTP behind Therapy Not Taxes (TNT), dedicated to revolutionizing the way therapists approach taxes. With 18 years of self-employed therapy experience under her belt, Carol knows firsthand the trials and tribulations of navigating the tax landscape. Her journey began with a quest for tax literacy that led her from disappointment to determination. Armed with actionable advice from a tax attorney and a graduate certificate in Taxation, Carol emerged as a bona fide tax slayer with a mission to empower fellow therapists. TNT isn't just about doing taxes; it's about erasing them legally while maximizing income and minimizing tax burdens. Through Carol's guidance, therapists have bid farewell to tax anxiety and hello to refunds and growing travel funds. So, if you're a therapist itching to keep more of your hard-earned cash, Carol's your go-to guru.
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The podcast currently has 27 episodes available.