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Money's Greg Powel on intent media


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One of the most solid areas of digital publishing is what’s become known as intent media. In the old days, we called this “SEO.” The basics are taking service content and applying it to algorithmic distribution (usually Google) and marrying it with performance advertising models like affiliate marketing programs that pay for sales leads. 

Ad Practitioners is another intent-based publisher in expansion mode.In late 2019, Ad Practitioners bought Money.com from Meredith with the plan to run its intent playbook with the personal finance brand. That means more lists of the best credit cards, best savings accounts and, yes, the best pet insurance companies. The entire company, which is based in Dorado, Puerto Rico, is 160 people and generates over $100 million in annual revenue.


Some takeaways from Ad Practitioner CEO Greg Powel:


Arbitrage works. Paid acquisition is an important part of the Ad Practitioners model – it has spent about $500 million on Google ads in its history. Search for “best credit cards 2022,” and you’ll see why. This kind of high-value intent traffic is very valuable – credit card leads can fetch $100 – that it makes sense. 


Bad sites are a business model problem. Publishers with terrible websites do not have a tech problem; they have a business model problem. The attention-based ad model for general audiences is hard to make work without adopting, well, adversarial tactics. The performance ad model of intent media aligns incentives better since the publisher wants people to get the information they need rather than hijack their attention elsewhere.


Algorithm dependence is a manageable risk. To put it mildly, there’s a checkered history of publishers relying on algorithms for the overwhelming majority of their distribution. Ad Practitioners look to mitigate that dependence with its paid acquisition as well as licensing deals with the likes of MSN and others. While new channels like TikTok could catch on to eat into Google’s search share, Greg sees the biggest threat of disruption coming from Apple, since its devices are the originator of a big chunk of Google searches.


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