We argue that true media people are troublemakers with taste. They’re people who understand narrative, tension, and how to make others feel something. Michael Wolff and Olivia Nuzzi are Media People. Scott Galloway and Silicon Valley People are not Media People. The media industry has been downsized in the Information Space, with media personalities rewarded more than Media People. Media People will endure.

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Chapters:

* 00:00 Open

* 00:44 Welcome

* 06:42 Job Displacement Tsunami

* 16:10 The Problem With Men

* 27:57 Media People

* 56:14 Netflix Immersive Experience

* 01:00:49 Justin Bieber A Twitch Streamer

* 01:03:13 Good Product

* 01:08:27 Outro

Meanwhile, the New York Times has proven to the exception to the rule in publishing, as most publishers are dealing with “toxic” pageview assets. Plus: The Great Compression has arrived for ad agencies.

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Chapters:

* 00:00 Open

* 00:29 Welcome

* 01:47 New York Mayoral Election

* 11:51 AI Bubble Check

* 22:53 Job Shifts

* 26:13 The Great Compression in Ad Agencies

* 35:37 New York Times: Exception to the rule

* 44:06 Vox

* 52:49 Puck-Air Mail Deal

* 55:36 Good Product

* 57:14 Outro

Plus: Anonymous Banker breaks down the logic of Warner Brothers Discovery’s sale, why celebrity investors are rarely additive, and the extractive logic of AOL’s $1.5b sale.

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Chapters:

* 00:00 Open

* 00:21 Welcome

* 01:48 Age Of Wonders vs What Is This S**t

* 12:11 The Goon Squad by Daniel Kolitz

* 14:53 Interview Assassin

* 17:54 Performative Interview Format

* 19:43 Making A Good Product

* 37:19 Warner Bros. Discovery Deal

* 43:50 Travis Kelsey Activist Investor

* 50:23 AOL $1.5Bil Deal

* 54:23 Good Product

* 58:26 Outro

This week, Alex has a hard stop, AB is lost in Tokyo, and Brian and Troy go deep on sovereignty — who has it, who’s lost it, and whether it’s even possible to get it back for publishers and everyone else downstream of Big Tech.They debate whether Substack-style independence represents true sovereignty or just a different kind of dependency; ad tech’s extractive economics, and why “agentic ad buying” won’t fundamentally change a usurious system; and how OpenAI’s march toward becoming the next Google signals another era of centralization.

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Chapters:

* 00:00 Open

* 00:24 Welcome

* 06:35 How do publishers reclaim sovereignty?

* 22:29 AdTech

* 40:00 OpenAI In Browser Wars

* 57:57 Good Product

* 01:04:02 Outro

This week, we talk about how the information space rewards vibes over verification, the second-order effects of video swallowing social media, and how institutions lost the narrative war to influencers, memelords, and politicians who understand that truth is optional so long as the narrative is upheld.

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Chapters:

* 00:00 Open

* 00:28 Welcome

* 01:49 Old Internet Is Truly Dead

* 06:44 Authentic Media Relationships

* 10:11 The “Social” In Media

* 20:16 AI In Commerce

* 23:03 OpenAI Is A Better Google

* 32:28 Who wants fake?

* 35:33 Anemoia

* 38:19 What is our next reality?

* 49:51 Rapping “Fat” Troy

* 50:21 AB On Rich People & Media Companies

* 56:17 Hasan Piker Shock Collar

* 01:00:12 Good Product

* 01:01:40 Outro

This week, we talk about Anthropic’s humanist branding, the fading idea of cool in a fractured culture, and why Gen Z’s nostalgia for the analog world might be the real rebellion. Plus: Anonymous Banker joins to break down why the math behind Paramount buying The Free Press for $150 million includes “free severance” as it will push out many CBS News workers.

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Chapters:

* 00:00 Open

* 00:29 Welcome

* 00:58 Listener Feedback

* 07:32 Milan Aesthetics

* 11:46 Taste vs Slop

* 21:51 Gen Z Nostalgia

* 27:28 Claude’s “Brand Residency”

* 29:23 Can AI be cool?

* 36:45 The Free Press Deal

* 48:21 Good Product

* 52:25 Outro

Sora 2’s selfie-movies, Meta’s Vibes, and OpenAI’s Pulse point to shorter, agentic, video-first habits—and a shrinking role for text. Even The New York Times is saying newsletters are too wordy and need more video.

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Chapters:

* 00:00 Open

* 00:21 Welcome

* 03:09 Aux Bons Crus

* 07:42 Gen Z & Find My

* 09:18 Sora 2 & Vibes

* 20:43 Pulse

* 23:57 AI In Commerce

* 30:46 NYT World Newsletter

* 37:18 People Inc. Acquired FeedFeed

* 39:40 New Creator Tools On YouTube

* 46:07 CloudFlare Metadata Signals

* 50:57 Good Product

* 56:33 Outro

Plus: the evolving role of communications officers in the information wars, OpenAI’s new Pulse, Kimmel’s comeback, and the New York Times’ super app ambitions.

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Chapters:

* 00:00 Open

* 00:42 Gaming in Japan

* 08:02 CCO Role In The Information Space

* 13:48 Kimmel Comeback

* 21:51 Good Racket

* 41:00 New York Times’ Super App

* 45:59 ChatGPT Pulse

* 55:16 Good Product

* 01:01:08 Outro

This week: Trump’s war on the media expands and intensifies; AI doomers vs AI maximalists; and Anonymous Banker on what’s behind the Puck-Air Mail deal.

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Chapters:

* 00:00 Open

* 00:31 Welcome

* 01:10 Trump's War On Media & Free Speech

* 24:25 AI Doomerism

* 36:00 Puck-Air Mail Deal With AB

* 46:05 TBPN

* 52:56 Good Product

* 01:00:33 Outro

We talk about how fandom now powers news, why comedians have turned into pundits, and how combat dynamics are incentivized by the feed. We also explore the blurring of media and politics, from Charlie Kirk’s rise as both activist and media brand to Sam Altman’s combative interview with Tucker Carlson. Along the way, we debate whether niche formats like link dumps and newsletters offer an antidote, and what happens to publishing economics as Google admits the open web is in decline.

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Chapters:

* 00:00 Open

* 00:46 Welcome

* 02:43 Charlie Kirk Killing

* 12:54 The Great Media Singularity

* 30:25 Google Says Open Web Is Dying

* 40:00 Publishers Getting Paid

* 48:21 Apple Announcement

* 55:48 Rupert Got What He Wanted

* 58:15 Good Product

* 01:00:03 Good Conversation

* 01:02:43 Outro