SYNOPSIS:Podcast host and poet Tess McCarthy discusses and analyzes her poem 'Lost and Found.' Tess explains how she uses her AI bot [Oracle von Cleef], based on Gemini, to analyze her poems, providing additional insight into her analysis on the show.
In MorningPoem #324, “Lost and Found,” the poem explores themes such as fear, loneliness, abandonment, the kindness of strangers, and the power of human connection. Tess contrasts this with her previous episode's poem, “There Once Was a Little Girl,” MorningPoem #323. There’s a contrast in the episode breakdown—one poem is light and whimsical, and the other is introspective, providing an intimate portrait of their childhood experiences, including a tough separation from her mother. The episode concludes with Tess emphasizing the importance of connection and the themes of family, identity, and love in her work.
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TRANSCRIPT // HIGHLIGHTS:Welcome to Season 1, Episode 6, Part 2 of the Morning Poems Podcast, a podcast where I read my previously published poems on Facebook and Instagram under the account morningpoems underscore. Hi, I'm Tess McCarthy, your host and poet.
0:38
I've written over 1,400 poems in my lifetime, and I'm on my way to beating the dickens out of poet Emily Dickinson, who wrote almost 1,800 poems by age 55. I just got just a smidgen to go. Okay. And some housekeeping. Before I dive into the analysis... I want to tell you, just thank you.
1:10
All right, and now for the analysis. I'm recording this on a Saturday afternoon in San Francisco, and we're having full-blown pride festivities. I'm heading to the DNA Lounge tonight to dance and watch a drag show.
1:42
Connection is everything. I ran both poems through my AI bot because I'm finding out that it does well at analysis and can bring to words some of the things that I have a hard time conjuring up. So it could convey the exact themes I was aiming for in the poetry, just written days apart. And it compared and contrasted things well.
2:11
The poem I just read, Lost and Found, explores the girl's fear, loneliness, and abandonment. But, redemptively, it touches on the kindness of strangers and the power of human connection. And my bot said it more succinctly. By the way, my bot uses Gemini as its base bot. But for me,
2:42
I wanted to say that both are very personal between Episode Five, where we have the superhero poem and today in Lost and Found. Both are about love, little personhood, or girlhood. In Episode 5, one's moving, and the other is light and very fantasy-blown.
3:12
In poem 322 323, in Episode Five, There Once Was a Little Girl, we're talking about the poet's experience as a hyperimagining. If we were to reframe things, wouldn't we put everything in our most ideal or most exaggerated experience if we were reframing?
3:37
If we're using the power of storytelling to reframe our experience, wouldn't we go full-blown? And so when I say fantasy-blown, I'm talking about that. That's like a word I'm coining. But the fact that my poem 323, which I've nicknamed a superhero one, reads like prose, right? It's meant to be prosy.
4:04
It's intentionally written to resemble a children's book—even the title, There Once Was a Little Girl is evocative of a children's book. There are also supernatural aspects to the poet's childhood in episode five, right? So, for one, the dog is telepathic, and the dog's telepathy is a metaphor for the girl's compassion.
4:35
Or telepathy, in general, if you really understand somebody, you see them. And if you see them, you deeply love them. And that's what I was going for when I threw in the supernatural ability for this dog to be telepathic. Here, there's interaction.
There's a fictional interaction here.
5:03
The girl is surrounded by these incredible femme people in her life. She's told she's ordinary, which is meant to protect her from harm. But the poem suggests that the little girl's ability to love is her own superpower. It's whimsy. It's light.
5:26
When we look at Morning Poem 324 today, you want to believe the poet has created some distance. Not everyone knows the details of my life. And if you think getting lost at an amusement park was hurtful enough, good. There's more. The poem begins with the poet's experience of being separated from her parents.
6:00
It speaks to a hero's journey. And once you get to know some of these poems a lot deeper, you'll see that as a writer, I go back and explore these poems’ themes of separation and loss. For example, I was separated from my mom for over eight hours in the hospital because I came out
6:27
so white, my mother was so brown, and they thought they switched babies on my mother. And in that poem, you can see a little bit of my mother's Love, even though it's a little skewed, like my mom's hand holding onto me tight when she finds me.
6:59
So, this begins with my experience of being separated from my parents. I cried when I read the following. I'm just going to reread some of the other things that come up because there are just two key elements: Two key themes that my bot said I couldn't fully express and put into words.
7:25
The poem reflects on the power of memory. The poet's vivid recollection of her experience suggests that even seemingly insignificant events can impact our lives. This theme is often found in narrative poems and speaks to the importance of our past experiences in shaping who we are.
7:50
It's now 4th of July. I just saw Inside Out. The search for identity is another thing that the bot comes up with. The poem touches on the theme of a search for identity. The experience of being lost and found suggests that we are all searching for our place in the world.
8:15
The theme is often found in narrative poems, and it speaks to the universal human experience of searching for meaning and purpose. Go AI, you get language. You may get it statistically, but you get it. Okay. There's also the other theme of the kindness of strangers, and besides loss and separation, if we...
8:47
You know, my therapist, my late therapist of nine years, passed away suddenly. And that was about four or five years ago. And she used to say her birthday's coming up on July 22nd. In her Brooklyn accent, Marcia Baum used to say, fall, and the world will hold you up.
9:13
And I definitely can get that now, so many years later. In this poem, the little girl in me has fallen, spiraling out of control. But the strangers find her here, and the world holds her up. So, for this long time, I had this mistrust with strangers for a good reason.
9:40
I came from a rough childhood. I had been harmed. At 17, something even worse happened to me. Without going into the details, sometimes I have to ask myself how I have recovered from this. I can't begin to tell you, but writing Lost and Found was reconciling my trust in strangers.
10:11
The couple who finds the little girl in the poem offers comfort and is portrayed in compassionate and caring ways. The author wants to believe that there are good people out there. It doesn't seem raw, but the events are as real to her as she can imagine.
10:34
As she even ponders, I even ponder to this day, did he—actually—buy me a big blue lollipop? If he did, what does that say subconsciously? So, I think... Blue, the lollipop is blue, and in color psychology, if I've learned anything by working in marketing for so long, the color blue conveys trust.
11:05
And then I asked my bot, and it dredged some good points. So, the blue lollipop also can also signify trust and loyalty, which is something the adult I provide in my relationships with others and what I equally desire. One of the things I oftentimes talk about in my poetry is that I use dogs to convey unconditional love.
11:39
So it's not just a dog walking around and, oh, I'm going to write about it. It's much deeper than that. My unconditional love is discarded. The speaker compares being neglected to being lost to being a stray dog. That's heavy. Both are narrative poems; both locate meaning and purpose,
12:07
both use repetition since that is an element I'm personally embedding into my work. One poem is fantastical, right? The other is introspective, and it helps us piece together my complex childhood and what remains. A poet must string together these images to convey the themes, or at least for me in this lifetime,
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to convey the themes of family, identity, and the power of love. On one hand, Through our relationships with others, our idealized parents, or our ancestors with telepathic dogs, it's sometimes tough to wade through these personal events. But I believe that we're all here for connection.
13:16
That concludes Episode 6 of the Morning Poems podcast. It was produced by Tess McCarthy, and it is based on the original poetry written and spoken by Tess McCarthy. I want to make content accessible and won't build a paywall until some conditions are met. So, like, thousands of subscribers. So I'm going to ask you, hey... If you want to subscribe, subscribe. However, if you do subscribe, guess what?
13:42
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14:06
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14:28
Before I sign off, I'm so glad you stuck around for episode six. Next up. Next is episode seven, and the poem, “I Didn't Like Going to Mass,” originally published on Facebook as I Didn't Like Going to Mass, Part 1. It's from June 25, 2016. Stay tuned.
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