This week on the show, Howard Teibel sits down with two esteemed leaders in the higher education space. Carol Mullaney serves as Senior Director for the Offices of Sustainability and Continuous Improvement, and president elect for the Network for Change and Continuous Innovation (NCCI). Brent Ruben is director of the Rutgers Leadership Academy and faculty member at the Robert Wood Johnson School of Medicine and the Graduate School of Education at Rutgers University. His years of contribution change leadership have yielded more than 50 books and 200 journal articles and book chapters to his name.

Carol and Brent join Howard for a conversation on change, provocation, and the evolving macro conversation that comes as we continue to learn to lead change in higher education. This comes as we prepare for the NCCI 20th Annual Conference in Denver Colorado, Moving Mountains: Cultivating Change in Higher Education, July 10–12. Registration is open now.

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