Erick and Rich discuss MSP-as-a-Service, a new outsourcing option for newcomers to managed services and existing MSPs who need more time to go all-in on building an AI practice, plus three practical steps any MSP can take to ensure they’re dedicating time to growth, margin protection, and leadership instead of fighting fires all day. Then they’re joined by ex-MSP and current thought leader Alex Stanton for an insightful conversation about what MSP rollups, cyber resilience, and AI herald for the future of managed services. And finally, one last thing: the crazy price paid at auction for a Flamin’ Hot Cheeto shaped like a Pokemon character. 

Discussed in this episode:
Summit Holdings Launches “MSP-as-a-Service” Operating Model to Help MSPs Scale Faster and Increase Recurring Revenue
Further thoughts on AI and managed services from Alex Stanton:
Mapping the Next Golden Age of Managed Services
AI “Systems of Action” Have Worrying Implications for PSA Vendors'Cheetozard' auction results in a Guinness World Record 
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Erick and Rich talk about why Slide’s Series B funding round, the MSP Well initiative, and GTIA’s 2026 Community and Councils Forum all underscore why community is more important than ever in the channel. Then Erick explains why reviewing client profitability on anything other than a company-by-company basis is guesswork, and Rich speaks with GTIA research czar Carolyn April about the 2026 State of the Channel Report. And finally, one last thing: the chicken-wing flavored, protein-packed espresso martini you never knew you wanted. 

Discussed in this episode:

Slide Raises $70 Million Series B Led by General Catalyst to Expand Its Business Continuity and Disaster Recovery (BCDR) Platform for Managed Service Providers
MSP Well websiteBuffalo Wild Wings unveils wing-flavored protein espresso martini 

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Erick and Rich discuss recent evidence about security awareness and alert fatigue that show why outsourced, AI-based automation must play a critical part in how MSPs protect their clients, as well as practical ways to enforce proper security with your clients rather than rely on the good intentions of their employees. Then they’re joined by Robin Ody of Omdia for an in-depth conversation about the analyst firm’s 2026 MSP Trends and Predictions Report. And finally, TWO last things: an illustration of the wrong way to incorporate voice AI in the call center and a follow-up on Erick’s suggestion last week that MSPs use AI to practice for big client meetings.  

Discussed in this episode:
Cybercrime Victimization Climbs to Record High 44% Over Five-Year Period
New N‑able and Futurum Report Reveals How AI is Reshaping Cyber Resilience
Overview of Omdia 2026 MSP Trends and Predictions Report
Callers to Washington state hotline press 2 for Spanish and get accented AI English instead

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Erick and Rich discuss the right and wrong way to think about automating customer relationships with AI, as well as the connection between scalable service delivery and attractive exit prices. Then they’re joined by ScalePad CEO Chris Day for a deep dive into some of the surprising findings in that company’s recent MSP Trends report. And finally, one last thing: prepping for your performance review with an AI-powered version of the boss. 

Discussed in this episode:

MSPs Need to Accelerate AI Evolution. Distributors Say They Can Help.Scale
Pad MSP Trends Report 2026
Uber employees have an AI clone of CEO Dara Khosrowshahi — and use 'Dara AI' before talking to the big boss himself 

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Erick and Rich discuss the reasons MSPs need to be implementing AI automation tools and the risk limits they should consider when doing so, as well as concrete strategies for growing profits and exit value by simplifying your tool stack and customer base. Then they’re joined by Pinar Ormeci of Lexful to discuss that company’s ambitious new AI-native system of record for MSPs. And finally, one last thing: A boxing ring TKO in which the “T” stands for toupee rather than technical. 

Discussed in this episode:
Summary of Omdia’s 2026 MSP predictions
Lexful Goes God-Mode on AI
Boxer loses hairpiece in the ring and blames mother’s shampoo

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Erick and Rich discuss why the channel’s AI maturity is stuck in a three-year rut according to IDC and what MSPs can do about it, plus strategies for converting focus and discipline into accelerated growth. Then they’re joined by the managing director of partner programs for Google Cloud, Phil Larson, for an insider’s take on opportunities for MSPs in cloud and AI. And finally, one last thing: how a real-life Jimmy Neutron produced nuclear fusion in his home lab. 

Discussed in this episode:
AI is a Growing Business Yet Risky Bet for Channel Partners
IDC North America Partner Landscape 2025: Vendor Relations, Cloud Marketplaces, and Distribution
Introducing Google Cloud Partner Network: What partners should know
Dallas 12-year-old achieves nuclear fusion after four years of effort 

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Erick and Rich discuss Lexful’s ambitions to build the ultimate AI-native data repository for MSPs, as well as proven strategies for updating your managed services prices between renewals. Then they’re joined by M&A expert Abraham Garver of FOCUS Investment Banking for an insider’s take on today’s exit environment for MSPs and the rise of “mega mega” MSPs with nine-figure top lines. And finally, one last thing: A Seattle Seahawks fan who’s even more excited about this weekend’s Super Bowl than Rich because a home team victory will result in his first haircut in over a decade. 

Discussed in this episode:
AI-Native IT Documentation Platform Redefines How MSPs Work, Solving Pain Points and Generating Value in Real Time
Mega MSPs Are Old News. Say Hello to the Mega Megas.
By Abraham Garver: Unlocking Higher MSP Multiples: How Peer Group M&A Outshines Conference Connections
Seahawks fan hasn’t cut his hair since Super Bowl 49 loss, won’t until Seattle wins again

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Erick and Rich discuss the impact that security and AI maturity are having on MSP valuations and three concrete techniques for increasing valuations by increasing EBITDA. Then they’re joined by Michael Assraf, CEO and founder of Flamingo, to explore that company’s unconventional open-source approach to MSP tooling. And finally, one last thing: A data-based look at the most overused buzzwords in email, and a confession by Erick and Rich that they use most of them. 

Discussed in this episode:

Flamingo home page (including links to OpenMSP and OpenFrame)
Flamingo’s Unorthodox Plan to Turn MSP Systems of Record into Loss Leaders
The Top 10 Most Overused Email Buzzwords 

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Erick and Rich discuss what ConnectWise buying zofiQ says about the future of AI automation and tool stacks for MSPs and how to make sales excellence as important a part of your culture as technical excellence. Then they’re joined by two top executives from Thread for an inside look at AI-powered service desk automation from a leading vendor in the field. And finally, one last thing: an incident involving a Waymo in Phoenix that might inspire you to delay your first ride in a self-driving car. 

Discussed in this episode:
ConnectWise To Acquire zofiQ—Bringing AI-Powered Automation to IT Solution Providers
MSP Chat interview with Lee Silverstone of zofiQ
A Channelholic article on Thread
Waymo passenger flees after car drives on Phoenix light rail tracks 

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Erick and Rich discuss the easily overlooked opportunity for MSPs in AI prep work like implementing infrastructure and how MSPs can prepare themselves operationally to meet rising end user demand for AI services and solutions. Then they’re joined by Dave Sobel of The Business of Tech podcast to discuss his recent acquisition of an MSP community and education resource, and what it says about the current and future needs of smaller MSPs at a time when larger ones are commanding more attention. And finally, one last thing: How deepfake monkeys conquered St. Louis. 

Discussed in this episode:

Ingram Micro’s Crawl, Walk, Run Strategy for Partner AI
Omdia: Data centre, AI services and cloud marketplaces to drive partner growth in 2026
Gartner Forecasts Worldwide IT Spending to Grow 9.8% in 2026, Exceeding $6 Trillion For the First TimeThe Business of Tech podcast
MSP Radio Acquires Small Biz Thoughts and IT Service Provider University
A Welcome Investment in the Spirit of MSP Community
Monkeys are on the loose in St. Louis and AI is complicating efforts to capture them 

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