Wils Pelton and Josh Gondelman unravel the strange comfort of murder mysteries and the surprisingly painful reality of friendship breakups.

What You’ll Hear

The Lena Dunham Rewatch Spiral: Wils revisits Girls after finishing Lena Dunham’s memoir and reflects on why certain shows hit differently the second time around.

The Friendship Breakup Cinematic Universe: From The Banshees of Inisherin to real-life falling outs, Josh and Wils talk about why friendship breakups can feel just as devastating — and why the entertainment industry still hasn’t fully cracked the genre.

Everyone’s Solving Murders: The conversation wanders through White Lotus, Search Party, Only Murders in the Building, and more as they try to figure out why every modern TV show suddenly needs a corpse to keep audiences watching.

CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro & bedside table books
01:30 Lena Dunham memoir thoughts
03:40 Why Girls still feels inspiring
06:00 Friendship breakup stories in TV and film
08:30 DTF St. Louis and messy mysteries
11:00 The challenge of ongoing murder mystery shows
13:00 Why Search Party worked so well
16:00 The problem with accidental detectives
18:00 Why every show needs a murder now
20:20 The Residence and mystery TV recommendations
21:20 Goodnights & final thoughts

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