REFS NEED LOVE TOO

My Dad's Legacy: Kindness, Integrity and LOVE


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Grief has a way of focusing the lens on what actually matters: how someone lived, how they treated those who couldn't fight back, and what they stood for even when it was unpopular. My dad never reffed, but he taught me everything about making life’s hardest decisions—kindness first, integrity always, and the courage to do the hard right thing when it counts.

We trace a life well lived: European trips, science missions to Alaska and Hawaii, a deep love of national parks, and a New Yorker’s unlikely passion for country line dancing that led to a 30–year romance. 

We revisit tossing a baseball on city streets, marathon training before dawn, and the quiet discipline that turns effort into outcome. We share how encyclopedias on the floor, a giant Webster’s dictionary, and early computers turned learning disabilities into a path forward—fueling concise communication, clear thinking, and the confidence to advocate. 

You’ll hear about a 37–year career at Queensborough Community College, summers at NASA, an 1,100–page dissertation on wave theory, and a refusal to soften standards just to keep the peace. The throughline is leadership: empathy without condescension, accountability without cruelty, and match control rooted in respect and the spirit of the game.

There’s family history and service, too: caregiving after Holocaust loss, showing up for elders, single fatherhood with PTA meetings and homemade lasagna, and even building one of the first elementary school computer labs—so kids could have opportunities he never had. 

The takeaway is simple: love unconditionally, stay curious, work past comfort, and anchor your choices in honor. That’s the playbook we use on the field and at home, and it’s the legacy we hope to live up to—one “good man” moment at a time.

If this story resonates, share it with someone who taught you a hard lesson with a gentle hand. 

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REFS NEED LOVE TOOBy David Gerson

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