Contact with alleged otherwordly visitors has been reported since the birth of the modern UFO age all across the world. People describe creatures of varying shapes and sizes, species and colour.

From the Greys to the Nordics, the Lizard's to the Insectoids, the species just kep coming. Yet, what if none of these "visitors" are real creatures? What if they're cloned or laboratory created clones who a simple a scouting party for their masters. What if this a covert operation to instill fear in the experiencers, paving the way for another race to take control.

After several decades of being immersed in the field of ufology Rik Allan has come to a startling and troubling conclusion and can only have an apocolyptic conclusion.

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