Loudon has released 30 albums since 1970. He’s the quintessential singer-songwriter, relying on crafty, personal lyrics delivered dynamically and typically solo with acoustic guitar (though sometimes piano, banjo, ukulele, or a cappella), though his studio work has varied in production style and orchestration level over the years.

We discuss “How Old is 75” from Lifetime Achievement (2022), “Road Ode (Live)” from Career Moves (1993), and “Be Careful There’s a Baby in the House” from Album II (1971). We wrap up by listening to “Missing You” from Last Man on Earth (2001). Intro: “The Swimming Song” from Attempted Mustache (1973). Learn more at lw3.com.

Hear all of “The Swimming Song.” Perhaps his bigger hit is the novelty song “Dead Skunk in the Middle of the Road.” Here’s “The Suicide Song.” Hear the song “One Year” that we mention about a unique child-rearing situation. Here’s “Motel Blues,” the song we mention that was covered by Alex Chilton. Another he mentions is “Rufus Is a Tit Man.”

Here he is acting in Knocked Up. His most famous song from that soundtrack, “Daughter,” was actually written by Peter Blegvad. Here’s one of his recent big band covers (by Irving Berlin). Listen to his Grammy-winning album of Charlie Poole songs.

See a 2017 live version of “Be Careful There’s a Baby in the House.” Watch a whole live set from 2024. Watch him playing ukulele. Watch a live solo set from 1976. Here he is performing with his kids (who are famous in their own right).

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This Chicago singer/songwriter fronted Dolly Varden for six albums from the ’90s through 2013. He also started releasing solo records in 2003 and has just released his seventh.

We discuss “A Mile South of Town” (and listen at the end to “Oh, California”) from Ghosts (2024), the title track from The Dumbest Magnets by Dolly Varden (2000), and “Bronko Nagurski,” a 1989 recording by the early iteration of Varden, Stump the Host. Intro: “Saskatchewan to Chicago” by Dolly Varden from For a While (2013). More at stevedawsonmusic.com and dollyvarden.bandcamp.com.

Hear all of “Saskatchewan to Chicago,” and watch Dolly Varden play it live. Watch the video for the first single off the new album, “Time to Let Some Light In” and the one for “Oh, California.” Here he is live with his solo band. Hear Steve’s Funeral Bonsai Wedding album (2014).

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Though Dale is known as the long-time drummer for Washington sludge-metal band Melvins (’88-present), he’s also a guitarist and singer who led the band Altamont though four alternative rock albums (’97-’05) and has now released his third full-length, stylistically varied solo album.

We discuss “I Quit” from Glossolalia (2024) featuring Soundgarden’s Kim Thayil, “Bad Move” (co-written w/ Dan Southwick) from The Fickle Finger of Fate (2017), and “The Bit” (co-written with Buzz Osborne) by Melvins from Stag (1996). End song: “El Stupido” by Altamont from The Monkees’ Uncle (2005). Intro: “Spread Eagle Beagle” by Melvins from Houdini (1993). More at dalecrover.com.

Dale’s solo debut was an EP released under the Melvins name back in 1995. Watch the Melvins documentary. Hear the Melvins acoustic versions in full of “Bad Move” and “The Bit.” Watch Dale play “The Bit” live solo. Watch a recent Melvins live take. Watch Dale’s solo band live in 2018, and a fancily effected live take on “Bad Move” in particular. Here’s a drummer-focused song from live Melvins. Here he is playing “El Stupido” live. Hear all 10 min of “Spread Eagle Beagle.”

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As a young person in NYC, Amy played briefly in a punk band, then in the “cow punk” band Last Roundup with her brother, and then in a vocal trio called The Shams that released an album and an EP around 1993. She finally emerged as a full front-person as a solo artist in 1997; she’s since released nine solo albums plus three more with her husband Wreckless Eric, who now serves as her producer.

We discuss “Bricks” from Hang In There With Me (2024), “Genovese Bag” by Amy Rigby and Wreckless Eric from A Working Museum (2012), and “Beer and Kisses” from Diary of a Mod Housewife (1997) feat. John Wesley Harding. End song: “Dancing with Joey Ramone” from Little Fugitive (2005). Intro: “Dark Angel” by The Shams from Quilt (1993). More at amyrigby.com.

Listen to Amy’s memoir podcast Girl to City. Watch the video for “Dark Angel.” Hear the Last Roundup 1987 album Twister. Watch The Shams live. Watch the video for “Bricks.” Watch a video by Amy and Eric. Watch the video for her new song “Dylan in Dubuque.” Watch a full live solo concert. Here she is playing “Dancing with Joey Ramone” live with Eric.

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The New York-based singer/keyboardist/guitarist issued three albums and four EPs with Nova Social (initially called Stretch) from ’98-’14 while also serving as music director for Wesley Stace’s Cabinet of Wonders variety show. After four solo releases, he’s formed a new project setting his droll lyrics in a ’60s Brazilian setting called As For the Future.

We discuss “Koan for the Music Business” (and listen at the end to “Encyclopedia of Songs”) from this project’s 2024 eponymous album, “See the Devil” by David Nagler & The Legislation from Songs of Advice and Adversity (2020 EP), and “Drunk at the Prom” by Nova Social (co-written with Thom Soriano) from For Any Inconvenience (2011). Intro: “Theme in Yellow” (feat. Jeff Tweedy) from Carl Sandburg’s Chicago Poems (2016). More at davidnagler.com, facebook.com/asforthefuture, and carlsandburgchicagopoems.com.

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Watch a lyric video for “See the Devil.” Hear all of “Theme in Yellow.” Here’s a fancier video for another song from that Carl Sandburg album, “Fog,”  and one for “Chicago.” He recorded a version of the Gnarls Barkley song “Crazy” that has a nice video too. Here’s a video for the late Nova Social tune, “Turn to Crime.”

Watch David live supporting The Appointees album. Watch Nova Social performing “Drunk at the Prom” live. Watch David playing acoustic guitar and (separately) singing. Watch David backing Wesley’s crooning live, and doing a solo piano/vocal rendition of a Dead Kennedys song. Watch David conducting a choir for Jon Langford.

Listen to my Wesley Stace interview, which includes a song that David wrote the music for.

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John Wardle (named Jah Wobble by Sid Vicious) started playing bass in John Lydon’s post Sex Pistols band Public Image Ltd. in 1978, left after two albums, and has since recorded 50+ solo and collaborative albums, largely led by the bass, but spanning many genres including some particularly famous work in the world-music area.

We discuss “Last Exit” from A Brief History of Now (2023), “21 Towards Lewisham Shopping Centre” from The Bus Routes of South London (2023), “Fly Away” from Jah Wobble & Invaders of the Heart from Ocean Blue Waves (2019), and “Blowout” (a 1985 single). End song: “Visions of You” by Jah Wobble’s Invaders of the Heart (feat Sinéad O’Connor) from Rising Above Bedlam (1991). Intro: “Public Image” by PiL from First Issue (1978).

Hear all of “Public Image” via the official video. Watch the new video for “Last Exit.” Another new video is for “I Am, I Am, I Am.” Watch the video for “Visions of You.” Watch a recent live version of the track.

Watch a video for a recent collaboration between Jah and one of my other NEM guests, Mark Stewart. Jah refers to playing with the drummer Jaki Liebezeit from Can; listen to this early release (1982) with Jaki and another Can member Holger Czukay. Listen to Jah in 2004 with his band Deep Space. Here he is with the Modern Jazz Ensemble. Watch a full live video performance on radio from 2016 with Invaders of the Heart. Here’s a recent work with one Jah’s recurrent collaborators, Bill Laswell. Here’s a video of Jah’s sons’ band that he’s featured on. Hear the brand new take on the Rolling Stones’ “Start Me Up.”

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Oliver is the son of Yes keyboard wizard Rick Wakeman, and has not shied from this association, displaying similar sounds and chops, and serving as Yes’ keyboardist himself for four years. His work has in part played in this prog rock space, creating concept albums with Clive Nolan, working with Yes’ Steve Howe and Peter Banks, and playing with Starcastle and (another band his father used to be in) Strawbs. However, he’s also created a few explicitly New Age albums, the Oliver Wakeman Band seems more centered on hard rock, and Oliver has an evident love for ’80s power ballads.

We discuss “Golden Sun in Grey” from Anam Cara (2024) (feat. Hayley Griffiths singing), “Is This the Last Song I Write?” from Ravens and Lullabies (2013) (an album credited to Gordon Giltrap and Oliver Wakeman; the vocals are by Paul Manzi), and “Mind Over Matter” from The 3 Ages of Magick (2001) (an album credited to Oliver Wakeman with Steve Howe). End song: “To the Moment” by Yes from From a Page (recorded 2010, released 2019). The intro is “Diving” from Oliver’s first album, Heaven’s Isle (1997). More at oliverwakeman.co.uk.

Watch the videos for Oliver’s new singles “Miss You Now” and “Inside of my Fear.” Watch Oliver play one of his Yes songs solo during the pandemic. Hear the first album Oliver did with my previous guest Clive Nolan (featuring Rick Wakeman reading poetry), Jaberwocky. Hear the harder rock side of Oliver’s output with a song we mention, “The Agent,” from the live album Coming to Town. An Asia-like tune from its source album Mother’s Ruin (2005) is “Walk Away.” Watch that band live playing an Oliver-heavy instrumental. Watch Oliver and Gordon Giltrap live playing another song we mention, “Credit Carnival.” Watch Yes with Oliver live in 2011. Here’s Oliver with Starcastle in 2009. Here’s a song by another band Oliver played with, Light Freedom Revival.

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Pat has been a session drummer since the mid ’70s, was a founding member of Mr. Mister in the ’80s, and played in all line-ups of King Crimson since ’94. He’s also a producer and no stranger to electronics.

We discuss “31” by Tu-Ner from T-1 Contact Information  (2023), “Flinch” by TUNER from Totem (2005), “Life Goes On” by Mr. Mister from I Wear the Face (1984), and we conclude by listening to “Prog Noir” by Stick Men (2016). Intro: “Vroom Vroom” by King Crimson from Thrak (1995).

Hear all of “Vroom Vroom.” Watch Stick Men playing this classic King Crimson song live. Here’s Tu-Ner on last year’s tour, and here’s TU (which in this case was Pat, Tony Levin, and Trey Gunn). Watch King Crimson live in its 1995 double trio (with Bill Bruford and Tony), and with the three-drummer 2017 line-up (where Pat takes the first solo). Watch “Life Goes On” live in 1985. Here they are recently reunited.

I previously had Pat’s KC/Tu-Ner bandmate Trey Gunn on the show, where we talked about “Level Five,” which Pat talks about at length prior to “Flinch.” Markus Reuter’s episode features another Tuner track featuring Pat.

Another track Pat mentions is Tunisia’s “The Use of Black,” where he used drum samples from Dennis Chambers. Here’s Pat introducing another of his current bands, O.R.k. Here’s a track from his duo album with another drummer, Terry Bozzio. Here he is in 1999 with his semi-solo project “Mastica.” With his wife, he recorded a whole album of balladic reinterpretations of King Crimson songs.

At the end, we mention the Work in PROGgress album by Stick Men, so you can hear how these three greats develop their music remotely.

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Richard started as guitarist in the folk-rock staple Fairport Convention in 1967 but left in 1970 after five albums. He then recorded his debut solo album, six as Richard and Linda Thompson, and has since recorded 20 more solo albums of lyrically inventive, stylistically varied tunes that nearly always feature very skilled guitar work.

We discuss “Freeze,” the first single from his new album Ship to Shore, “The Ghost of You Walks” from You? Me? Us? (1996), and “Don’t Take It Lying Down” from Still/Variations EP (2015). End song: “When I Get to the Border” by Richard and Linda Thompson from I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight (1974). Intro: “1952 Vincent Black Lightning” from Rumor and Sigh (1991). More at richardthompson-music.com.

Check out his autobiography Beeswing, which I think is especially great as author-read audiobook (listen to a preview).

Listen to all of “Vincent Black Lightning.” Watch a live version of “The Ghost of You Walks.”  Another of the ballads he often plays live is “Beeswing.” And “Meet On the Ledge,” which dates back to Fairport Convention. Here he is with a live cover of “Oops I Did It Again.” Watch a full concert with a band in 2004. Here he is reuniting with Fairport Convention in 1985.

Here’s a video from his US heyday. Some of the other songs we mention include “I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight,” “Broken Doll,” “Keep Your Distance,” “I Misunderstood,” and “Persuasion” (also released by Tim Finn).

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Kim has recorded about ten meticulously recorded country-evolving-to Americana albums out of Nashville since 1995. We discuss “Joy Rider” (written with Aaron Lee Tasjan) from Every New Beginning (2024), “A Place Called Home” (written with Mike Henderson) from Rise (2002), and “I’m Alright” (written with Angelo Petraglia and Larry Gottlieb) from Bitter Sweet (1997). End song: “Floating on the Surface,” also from the new album (written with guitarist Roger Nichols). Intro: “Every River”, also from Bitter Sweet. More at kimrichey.com.

Hear all of “Every River.” Watch a video from Kim’s label period, “Those Words We Said” from 1995. Watch a live solo performance of “A Place Called Home.” Watch a recent band performance of “I’m Alright.” Watch a full band gig from 2023.

For some idea of Kim’s Glimmer 20th Anniversary project, here’s the original 1999 version of “Came Around” and here’s the stripped down re-recording. For another example, compare the original and the new “Can’t Lose Them All.”

Listen to Kim’s duet with Chuck Prophet (and Chuck’s appearance on this podcast). Here’s one of Kim’s “work tapes,” that she describes near the end.

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