St. Lawrence philosophy prof Jennifer L. Hansen, one of the most frequent guest on Mark’s podcasts and expert in feminist philosophy, here hits it off with our new host Mary. We act out vegan jerky time, snacktime at the all-girls clubhouse, and two gals getting pulled over by a cop.

Does the “come debate me” style of philosophy include unnecessarily masculine tropes? How does this Charlie Kirk model relate to what Socrates was doing? What are alternative, fun ways to get students to talk in philosophy classes?

The inspirational figure that Mary refers to is Viola Spolin.

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Image note: In asking MidJourney to draw me “crazy town,” its only way of interpreting that image was to give me variations where the buildings are of various bright colors. This option I thought was exceptional in that it seems like the town is being bombed, which seemed morbidly appropriate given current goings-on.

What is it worth raising an objection over, and how hard do you fight? We hear (and act out) Mary’s roommate-searching trauma, plus Mary for President, curiosity about bellicose Twitter, respect vs. reverence, rationality and religion, dealing with QAnon believers, family Thanksgiving, giving someone else a name, vegetarianism, and the angel of philosophy.

Here’s that Steve Harvey show clip where Mary was on TV. Here’s that PEL episode on Richard Rorty on truth and religion that I mention.

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Jerome is an LA composer/director/screenwriter who is involved in a lot of musical improv, so Mary and Mark interview him about that and about the function of art, plus songs for pets, a support group for people who sing all the time, and more.

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Image Note: Today’s MidJourney prompt was “an opera singer running very fast while singing, with a zigzagging cartoon dust trail behind to indicate speed, as drawn by a child in crayon.” As usual, the request to draw like a child was ignored, but at least we have some good crayon texture.

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Elijah is a philosophy prof (and PhD theologian) in Vancouver who was a die-hard, evangelical Christian but gradually became liberal and then atheist. In light of his latest book that collects all your favorite arguments for and against the existence of God, called UnBelieving God: A Skeptic’s Guide, Mark and Mary chat with him about his journey and about the degree to which we should care about others’ beliefs in this area so as to engage them in debate. In the course of this, as you’d expect, God makes a personal appearance (with Mary), and there’s an aborted sketch about a brainwashing service.

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Image Note: Today’s MidJourney prompt was “god smiting a cowering, bearded philosopher, as drawn crudely in crayon by an 8-year-old.” For some reason all of the results showed only one figure, making God INTO the bearded philosopher, but I liked one of them, so here we are. I’m particularly intrigued by what the shapes on the edges of the drawing might be: is that a donkey’s nose on the left?

To kick off the Year of Our Lord 2026, Mark and Mary talk about memory: memory care for the elderly, the relation between things and memories, what professional activities are worth preserving (improv performances?), being the tchotchke, womb nostalgia, puppets and percussion, plus a visit from the future.

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Image note: A lot of frustration with MidJourney today. I initially asked for “a rainstick and percussion triangle having a conversation on a shelf, as drawn in crayon by a child,” and this was one of the results. I reran it and asked for two variations, and it all just got worse. In all cases, MidJourney seemed unable to grasp what the musical instrument triangle looked like, even when I looked up its technical name (an idiophone) and tried that. It just produced geometric triangles: pyramids and cones. Per usual, the options all to various degrees had crayon-like texture but looked nothing like what a child would draw.

Rich runs the Dare to Fail improv school and is author of Improv Made Easier. He joins Mark and Mary to discuss contexts of failure, failing to meet your goals vs. “objective failure,” how to react in an improv scene to some topic that’s too offensive for you, graveyard humor vs. reverence. Featuring Steaks You Deserve, Robo-Carson, cancer torture, interactive cemetery, Sounds of Failure, and open-sourced MST3K. Did you know Mary talks to plants? “That was so nice, sweetie!”

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Image Note: I asked MidJourney for “An obviously robotic Johnny Carson with an ‘F’ tattooed on his forehead, as drawn by an 8-year-old in crayon.” I had to run it three times and finally got one that actually looked like Johnny Carson, had some obviously robotic features, and had a legible F. Per usual, this looks far beyond what a child could possibly draw, and I would say this is colored pens rather than crayon, but at least there’s some scribbling involved.

Philosopher/writer/critic/podcaster Lawrence Ware returns to the show to meet Mary and talk about how Mark is his own personal Leroy Jesus. We act out and/or discuss orphan greeting cards, face-to-face instruction vs. writing books, imaginary friends, laugh trumpets, black ice, and is aesthetic judgment (especially of yourself) a mistake?

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Image note: Again using Midjourney AI, I attempted to have Lawrence dressed as Santa drawn by a child with crayon. None of the options looked particularly like Lawrence, so I uploaded his photo and asked again, but the results were even worse, so either I don’t know how to use the program to work on an uploaded photo or it is just janky. Note that I also ran one asking for “podcaster Mark Linsenmayer” dressed as Santa, and the results demonstrated conclusively that MidJourney is not going online and finding an actual photo of the person you specify.

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Is argumentation essential to philosophy? Should you always be open to arguments challenging your beliefs? An actual argument would not be just two abstract positions being measured against each other, but two people with some stakes in the issue, and of course the most interesting philosophical issues have to do with how we live our lives, and so what could be more personal and potentially insulting than challenges to your life choices?

We act out a few symbiotic scenarios and reflect back on our last couple of episodes interacting with people not named Mary or Mark. Plus animal facts, complaining to your significant other about exes, astrology prejudice, sexual harassment videos, and on-stage self-pleasure.

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Image note: MidJourney did OK showing a sucker fish on top of a frog, and it does look like a crayon drawing, but still fails to know how a six-year-old would actually draw. They added a new “figure out a style” system which I’m trying to use to train it how to draw like a six-year-old, but given that they just present a variety of styles to choose from and none of them are remotely close, this seems unpromising.

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Seth is an improviser and aspiring professional “muse,” which is a type of life coach that hangs out with you to see where you could be more in touch with your humanity so that you can then work out a coherent plan for your adult life. He discusses with Mary and Mark the conflict between authentic individual humans and a social structure filled with oppressive systems.

Should we “deprogram” ourselves from our standardized upbringing? Is there actually an authentic core we would uncover if we do so, or just a void ready to be filled with the promises of self-help gurus? We act out the personality store, the physically safe space, vulnerability coaching, ankle removal consideration, and more.

Image note: The (second try) MidJourney prompt this time was “various knick-knacks, crudely created as if by children.” When I initially tried for “various small tchotchkes drawn by a seven year old,” it just gave me, like a uniform series of rocks with drawings on them, or a large set of fridge magnets.

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Scott, until lately a philosophy professor at Oklahoma State University, joins Mark and Mary to tout his new book, Thinking Ethically: A Handbook for Making Moral Choices. The point is to provide some helpful tips in our age of non-communication for how we can explore and debate varying positions on hot button social issues. So how does debate role-playing jibe with improv comedy? Scott is also a “philosophical counselor,” so what’s that all about, and can we play with that? Should you discuss controversial ideas with people sitting next to you on an airplane?

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Image note: MidJourney does a less terrible job this time, in response to the prompt “A drawing by a six-year old of a debate club.” Seems like a bit too much detail for six, but at least it looks crayon-produced, and I can nearly guarantee that no actual six year old would choose this topic.