Philosophy vs. Improv

Mark and Mary are joined by Andrea, an Italian teacher with a broad performing background who’s written a book of philosophical, poetic aphorisms called Think Town: self-help reflections and directives about fear, ego, happiness, etc.

There’s a long history of aphorisms in philosophy (Nietzsche, Heraclitus, Confucius, Laozi), and philosophy invented the self-help genre (the Stoics among others), but how does philosophy work given the lack of argumentation?

We explore the monster under the bed, AI agents, making philosophy personally applicable, being receptive, DOT ego secretions, and more.

Image Note: This is one of the options that MidJourney gave me given the directive to represent the concept of aphorisms. I was picturing, what, little dialogue bubbles with nonsense text in them? AI is clearly a bit disturbed here, and my demonstrating this is a good use of Tennessee lakes.

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Plus, cutting-edge surgery reality shows, Schrödinger’s hostile cat and Dr. Brenda’s sentient food samples, Bishop Jim vs. Trudy the Innocent, and more!

Image note: The prompt for MidJourney was “a three-breasted angry cat, as if drawn by a child.” This was the only one of eight options that gave me three of anything. Clearly MidJourney is not down with three-boob fetishism.

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Every PvI recording is an experiment, and in this case, our guest (a bigwig acting coach in NYC whom I went to high school with) didn’t feel great about the episode, so I offered to paywall it. Here you get to hear what you’re missing, along with a little pitch about why you should support the show.

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BJ is an LA improviser/actor/TV host (who teaches wounded warriors among others), and he chats with Mark and Mary about migratory patterns, TV shows that date you, how to draw in students, the realness of birds, and playing unsafe characters.

Scenes include a forced-Fargo college experience, improv class on the roof, spying on birds, and keyboard warriors. Plus Marge and Larry.

Why did Mary have a 3am call time for some theater thing? You will not know.

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Image note: The children’s pictures of birds were swiped from here.

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In this pitched, high-stakes battle, your hosts have it out about astrological biases, doing offensive accents, letting go of control in an improv scene, and group-based restrictions on who you feel you date. OK, actually, it’s not a battle, but an illustration of how the dynamics of changing one’s mind works: Despite what you might be reading or who might be lecturing at you or demonstrating something for you, you invariably have to do the work yourself.

Does Jesus have time to appear on your toast? Are all TV characters robots in a shared robot universe? Are zodiac signs based on serial killer characteristics? How does Pluto FEEL about not being a planet any more? So many vital questions definitively addressed in one meditation together…

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Image note: we’re taking a break from AI art this week, as planets are a slam dunk for actual kid art, and this one is by Amulya Altagi, shortlisted in an actual painting competition.

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St. Lawrence philosophy prof Jennifer L. Hansen, one of the most frequent guest on Mark’s podcasts and expert in feminist philosophy, here hits it off with our new host Mary. We act out vegan jerky time, snacktime at the all-girls clubhouse, and two gals getting pulled over by a cop.

Does the “come debate me” style of philosophy include unnecessarily masculine tropes? How does this Charlie Kirk model relate to what Socrates was doing? What are alternative, fun ways to get students to talk in philosophy classes?

The inspirational figure that Mary refers to is Viola Spolin.

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Image note: In asking MidJourney to draw me “crazy town,” its only way of interpreting that image was to give me variations where the buildings are of various bright colors. This option I thought was exceptional in that it seems like the town is being bombed, which seemed morbidly appropriate given current goings-on.

What is it worth raising an objection over, and how hard do you fight? We hear (and act out) Mary’s roommate-searching trauma, plus Mary for President, curiosity about bellicose Twitter, respect vs. reverence, rationality and religion, dealing with QAnon believers, family Thanksgiving, giving someone else a name, vegetarianism, and the angel of philosophy.

Here’s that Steve Harvey show clip where Mary was on TV. Here’s that PEL episode on Richard Rorty on truth and religion that I mention.

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Jerome is an LA composer/director/screenwriter who is involved in a lot of musical improv, so Mary and Mark interview him about that and about the function of art, plus songs for pets, a support group for people who sing all the time, and more.

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Image Note: Today’s MidJourney prompt was “an opera singer running very fast while singing, with a zigzagging cartoon dust trail behind to indicate speed, as drawn by a child in crayon.” As usual, the request to draw like a child was ignored, but at least we have some good crayon texture.

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Elijah is a philosophy prof (and PhD theologian) in Vancouver who was a die-hard, evangelical Christian but gradually became liberal and then atheist. In light of his latest book that collects all your favorite arguments for and against the existence of God, called UnBelieving God: A Skeptic’s Guide, Mark and Mary chat with him about his journey and about the degree to which we should care about others’ beliefs in this area so as to engage them in debate. In the course of this, as you’d expect, God makes a personal appearance (with Mary), and there’s an aborted sketch about a brainwashing service.

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Image Note: Today’s MidJourney prompt was “god smiting a cowering, bearded philosopher, as drawn crudely in crayon by an 8-year-old.” For some reason all of the results showed only one figure, making God INTO the bearded philosopher, but I liked one of them, so here we are. I’m particularly intrigued by what the shapes on the edges of the drawing might be: is that a donkey’s nose on the left?

To kick off the Year of Our Lord 2026, Mark and Mary talk about memory: memory care for the elderly, the relation between things and memories, what professional activities are worth preserving (improv performances?), being the tchotchke, womb nostalgia, puppets and percussion, plus a visit from the future.

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Image note: A lot of frustration with MidJourney today. I initially asked for “a rainstick and percussion triangle having a conversation on a shelf, as drawn in crayon by a child,” and this was one of the results. I reran it and asked for two variations, and it all just got worse. In all cases, MidJourney seemed unable to grasp what the musical instrument triangle looked like, even when I looked up its technical name (an idiophone) and tried that. It just produced geometric triangles: pyramids and cones. Per usual, the options all to various degrees had crayon-like texture but looked nothing like what a child would draw.