Sri Ramana Teachings

Nan Ar? (Who am I?) paragraph 16


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In a Zoom meeting of the ‘Ramana Maharshi Foundation UK’ on 9th October 2021 Michael James discusses the sixteenth paragraph of Nāṉ Ār? (Who am I?) sentence by sentence:

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எந்நூலிலும் முக்தி யடைவதற்கு மனத்தை யடக்க வேண்டுமென்று சொல்லப்பட் டுள்ளபடியால், மனோநிக்ரகமே நூல்களின் முடிவான கருத்து என் றறிந்துகொண்ட பின்பு நூல்களை யளவின்றிப் படிப்பதாற் பயனில்லை.

ennūlilum mukti y-aḍaivadaṟku maṉattai y-aḍakka vēṇḍum-eṉḏṟu solla-p-paṭ ṭuḷḷapaḍiyāl, maṉōnigrahamē nūlgaḷiṉ muḍivāṉa karuttu eṉ ḏṟaṟindu-goṇḍa piṉbu nūlgaḷai y-aḷaviṉḏṟi-p paḍi-p-padāl payaṉ-illai.

Since in every text [of advaita] it is said that for attaining mukti [liberation] it is necessary to make the mind cease, after knowing that manōnigraha [restraint, subjugation or destruction of the mind] alone is the ultimate intention [aim or purpose] of [such] texts, there is no benefit [to be gained] by studying texts without limit.

மனத்தை யடக்குவதற்குத் தன்னை யாரென்று விசாரிக்க வேண்டுமே யல்லாமல் எப்படி நூல்களில் விசாரிப்பது?

maṉattai y-aḍakkuvadaṟku-t taṉṉai yār eṉḏṟu vicārikka vēṇḍum-ē y-allāmal eppaḍi nūlgaḷil vicārippadu?

For making the mind cease it is necessary to investigate oneself [to see] who [one actually is], [but] instead [of doing so] how [can one see oneself by] investigating in texts?

தன்னைத் தன்னுடைய ஞானக்கண்ணாற்றானே யறிய வேண்டும்.

taṉṉai-t taṉṉuḍaiya ñāṉa-k-kaṇṇāl-tāṉ-ē y-aṟiya vēṇḍum.

It is necessary to know oneself only by one’s own eye of jñāna [knowledge or awareness].

ராமன் தன்னை ராமனென்றறியக் கண்ணாடி வேண்டுமா?

rāmaṉ taṉṉai rāmaṉ-eṉḏṟaṟiya-k kaṇṇāḍi vēṇḍum-ā?

Does [a person called] Raman need a mirror to know himself as Raman?

‘தான்’ பஞ்ச கோசங்களுக்குள் ளிருப்பது;

‘tāṉ’ pañca kōśaṅgaḷukkuḷ ḷ-iruppadu;

‘Oneself’ is within the pañca-kōśas [the ‘five sheaths’ that seem to cover and obscure what one actually is, namely the physical body, life, mind, intellect and will]; 

நூல்களோ அவற்றிற்கு வெளியி லிருப்பவை.

nūlgaḷ-ō avaṯṟiṟku veḷiyil iruppavai.

whereas texts are outside them.

ஆகையால், பஞ்ச கோசங்களையும் நீக்கி விசாரிக்க வேண்டிய தன்னை நூல்களில் விசாரிப்பது வீணே.

āhaiyāl, pañca kōśaṅgaḷai-y-um nīkki vicārikka vēṇḍiya taṉṉai nūlgaḷil vicārippadu vīṇē.

Therefore, investigating in texts [in order to know] oneself, whom it is necessary to investigate [by turning one’s attention within and thereby] setting aside [excluding, removing, giving up or separating from] all the pañca-kōśas, is useless.

பந்தத்தி லிருக்கும் தான் யாரென்று விசாரித்து தன் யதார்த்த சொரூபத்தைத் தெரிந்துகொள்வதே முக்தி.

bandhattil irukkum tāṉ yār eṉḏṟu vicārittu taṉ yathārtha sorūpattai-t terindu-koḷvadē mukti.

[By] investigating who is oneself who is in bondage, knowing one’s yathārtha svarūpa [actual own nature] alone is mukti [liberation].

சதாகாலமும் மனத்தை ஆத்மாவில் வைத்திருப்பதற்குத் தான் ‘ஆத்மவிசார’ மென்று பெயர்;

sadā-kālam-um maṉattai ātmāvil vaittiruppadaṟku-t tāṉ ‘ātma-vicāram’ eṉḏṟu peyar;

The name ‘ātma-vicāra’ [refers] only to [the practice of] always keeping the mind fixed on [or in] ātmā [oneself];

தியானமோ தன்னை ஸச்சிதானந்த பிரம்மமாக பாவிப்பது.

dhiyāṉam-ō taṉṉai saccidāṉanda birahmmamāha bhāvippadu.

whereas dhyāna [meditation] is imagining oneself to be sat-cit-ānanda brahman [the absolute reality, which is being-consciousness-bliss].

கற்றவை யனைத்தையும் ஒருகாலத்தில் மறக்க வேண்டிவரும்.

kaṯṟavai y-aṉaittaiyum oru-kālattil maṟakka vēṇḍi-varum.

At one time it will become necessary to forget all that one has learnt.

While discussing this paragraph Michael also discusses the meaning and implications of many verses of Uḷḷadu Nāṟpadu and some verses of Upadēśa Undiyār and Āṉma-Viddai, as well as other passages from Nāṉ Ār?.

This episode can also be watched as a video: 2021-10-09a Ramana Maharshi Foundation UK: Michael James discusses Nāṉ Ār? (Who am I?) paragraph 16.

After discussing this sixteenth paragraph of Nāṉ Ār? Michael answers questions about this and other aspects of Bhagavan’s teachings, particularly the practice of self-investigation and self-surrender, and this part of the meeting is recorded in a separate episode: Nan Ar? (Who am I?) paragraph 16 Q&A.

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