Change happens…and sometimes it doesn't. Change certainly is underway in Washington, where the incoming Trump administration is putting its players in position with promises of changing, or maybe upsetting, the status quo. Against that, the National Park Service continues to face long-standing problems with not enough staff or funding, compounded by National Park System damage from hurricanes, tornadoes, sea level rise, wildfires, just about everything under the sun. We're going to explore those topics today with Phil Francis from the Coalition to Protect America's National Parks and John Garder and Chad Lord from the National Parks Conservation Association.