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Before the tragedy that made national headlines, the Browning family was known as a close-knit, respected family in their Maryland community. John and Tammy Browning had built a life centered on faith, family, and service while raising their three sons in what appeared to be an idyllic home. But beneath that polished image, tensions were growing behind closed doors - tensions that would erupt into an unimaginable act of violence over a single weekend in February 2008. When the family's oldest son returned home and reported a horrific discovery, investigators were thrust into a case that quickly took an unexpected and deeply disturbing turn. As the truth emerged, it raised difficult questions about family dynamics, motive, and whether the warning signs had been there all along. This week we are covering the heartbreaking story of the Browning family murders. 

Sources: 

Shrestha, Naman; “Where is Nicholas Waggoner Browning Now? Update on the Killer”; Moviedelic; Aug 31, 2025; https://moviedelic.com/nicholas-waggoner-browning/; accessed July 13, 2026. 

“Teen who killed family gets 4 life sentences”; NBC News; Jan 23, 2009; https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna28815861; accessed July 13, 2026. 

“In Maryland, Boy Charged in 4 Deaths”; The New York Times; Feb 4 2008; https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/browning-nicholas.htm; accessed July 13, 2026. 

Jones, Kasey; “Police say Maryland Boy Scout killed his family while they slept”; The Associated Press; Feb 4, 2008; https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/browning-nicholas.htm; accessed July 13, 2026. 

Broadwater, Luke; “Police say 'no explanation' why Browning family murdered”; The Examiner; Feb 6, 2008; https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/browning-nicholas.htm; accessed July13, 2026. 

Broadwater, Luke; “Cockeysville murder suspect portrayed as 'arrogant, rude'”; The Examiner; Feb 7, 2008; https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/browning-nicholas.htm; accessed July 13, 2026.  

Broadwater, Luke; Janis, Stephen; “Student: Nicholas Browning joked about killing family”; The Examiner; Feb 11, 2008; https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/browning-nicholas.htm; accessed July 13, 2026. 

Broadwater, Luke; “Nicholas Browing indicted in Cockeysville family’s slaying”; The Examiner; Feb 12, 2008; https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/browning-nicholas.htm; accessed July 13, 2026. 

Nuckols, Ben;  “Md. teen who killed family gets 4 life sentences”; KansasCity.com; Jan 23, 2009; https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/browning-nicholas.htm; accessed July 13, 2026.  

Thompson, Adam; “Cockeysville home where manhunt started is where a high-profiled murder occurred in 2008”; CBS News; Feb 9, 2023; https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/cockeysville-home-where-manhunt-started-was-same-place-of-2008-browning-family-murders-source-tells-wjz/; accessed July 13, 2026  

James, John; Loader Jake; “Man who murdered entire family when he was 15 pens creepy dating profile from cell”; Daily Star; July 10, 2022; https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/man-who-murdered-entire-family-27445461; accessed July 13, 2026.  

Neil, Martha; “Teen Son Gets Life in Murder of His Dad, a Md. Lawyer, Mom & 2 Brothers”; ABA Journal; Jan 26, 2009; https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/teen_son_gets_life_in_murder_of_dad_a_md._lawyer_mom_2_brothers/; accessed July 13, 2026.  

WBFF STAFF; “Same house | Man shot officer at home where teen murdered family in 2008”; Fox Baltimore News; May 20, 2025; https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/same-house-manhunt-wanted-man-shot-officer-where-teen-murdered-family-in-2008; accessed July 13, 2026.  

With life being unpredictable lets flash back 1 year ago today and have Episode 067: The Escape of Kara Robinson for a Re-Release episode! Enjoy!

On June 24th 2002 while at a friends house, 15 year old Kara was outside watering plants when a man pulled into the driveway. Striking up a conversation, the man would then go on to kidnap Kara and take her back to his apartment where he would assault her for the next 18 hours.

Sources:

Pelisek, Christine, “At 15, Kara Robinson Chamberlain Was Kidnapped by a Serial Killer. She Not Only Escaped — She Helped Catch Him”, People, February 17th 2022, https://people.com/crime/kara-robinson-chamberlain-survived-serial-killer-helped-catch-him-as-teen/, Accessed July 6th 2025

Morgan, Amber, “Kara Robinson: The 15-Year-Old Girl Who Escaped A Serial Killer, Then Helped Police Solve Three Of His Murders”, All Thats Interesting, August 29, 2024, https://allthatsinteresting.com/kara-robinson, Accessed July 6th 2025

Finn, Natalie, “Why Kara Robinson's Escape From a Suspected Serial Killer in 2002 Is as Timely a Story as Ever”, E News, February 11, 2023, https://www.eonline.com/news/1364336/why-kara-robinsons-escape-from-a-suspected-serial-killer-in-2002-is-as-timely-a-story-as-ever, Accessed July 6th 2025

Dziemianowicz, Joe, “‘Picking Me Was The Greatest Mistake He Ever Made’: Where Is Kara Robinson’s Kidnapper Now?”, Oxygen True Crime, September 26, 2021, https://www.oxygen.com/escaping-captivity-the-kara-robinson-story/crime-news/where-is-kara-robinsons-kidnapper-richard, Accessed July 6th 2025

Gokhale, Stuti, “Kara Robinson Chamberlain: Where is Kidnapping Survivor Now?” The Cinemaholic, February 11, 2023, https://thecinemaholic.com/kara-robinson-chamberlain-where-is-kidnapping-survivor-now/, Accessed July 6th 2025

Lori Hacking seemed to have everything to look forward to, a happy marriage, a baby on the way, and an exciting new chapter just around the corner. But when she vanished after what was supposed to be an early morning jog, investigators quickly discovered that not everything in her seemingly perfect life was as it appeared. As the search for Lori intensified, a web of shocking lies, devastating betrayal, and heartbreaking truths began to unravel. This is the tragic case of Lori Hacking, a story that would captivate the nation and leave one family forever searching for answers. 

Sources: 

Kettler, Sara, “The Murder of Lori Hacking: Killed by Her Husband's Lies”, A&E, July 23, 2021, https://www.aetv.com/articles/murder-of-lori-hacking, Accessed June 28th, 2026 

Crime Library Writers, “The Murder of Lori Hacking”, Crime Library, https://crimelibrary.org/notorious_murders/family/mark_hacking/, Accessed June 28th, 2026 

Wikipedia, The Murder of Lori Hacking, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lori_Hacking, Accessed June 28th 2026  

We're back with our twenty eighth Leave the Light On episode where we recap the cases covered in the previous month, discuss true crime headlines from the month, and give you a sneak peak at what is coming up in the next month. If we know!References:

Levenson, Eric, “‘I am responsible.’ Takeaways from Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann’s sentencing hearing”, CNN, June 17, 2026, https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/17/us/rex-heuermann-life-sentence, Accessed June 27, 2026

Elizabeth "Betsy" Faria, was a beloved wife, mother, and friend who was battling terminal cancer when her life was suddenly cut short. What initially appeared to be a straightforward investigation soon evolved into a complex saga involving allegations of deception, a wrongful conviction, and years of unanswered questions. Along the way, another life would be lost—that of Louis Gumpenberger, a vulnerable man living with disabilities who became entangled in a shocking chain of events. Together, the deaths of Betsy and Louis left their families searching for justice and transformed this case into one of the most extraordinary true crime stories in recent memory. 

Sources: 

First Alert 4 Staff; “Pam Hupp waives jury trial for no death penalty”; First Alert 4; April 28, 2026; https://www.firstalert4.com/2026/04/28/pam-hupp-waives-jury-trial-no-death-penalty/; accessed June 21, 2026.  

Cesaric, Corin; “Woman at Center of The Thing About Pam Miniseries Charged Again in Connection with Friend's Stabbing Death”; People; Oct 30, 2023; https://people.com/pam-hupp-charge-refiled-betsy-faria-stabbing-death-8384298; Access June 21, 2026.  

Mehrotra, Kriti; “Betsy Faria’s Murder: How Did She Die? Who Killed Her?”; TheCinemaholic; Mar 8, 2022; https://thecinemaholic.com/betsy-farias-murder-how-did-she-die-who-killed-her/; accessed June 21, 2026.  

Fraga, Kaleena; “The Story Of Pam Hupp, The Remorseless Killer Who Butchered Betsy Faria — Then Framed Her Husband”; All Thats Interesting; Mar 2, 2022; https://allthatsinteresting.com/pam-hupp; Accessed June 21, 2026.  

Carlin, Shannon;  “Renée Zellweger Stars In The NBC Docudrama The Thing About Pam. Here's the True Story Behind the Series”; Time; Mar 9, 2022; https://time.com/6156033/the-thing-about-pam-renee-zellweger-true-story/;  Accessed June 21, 2026.  

Reed, J.A.;  “Untangling Betsy Faria’s murder: True story of ‘The thing about Pam’”; New York Post; April 2, 2022; https://nypost.com/2022/04/02/true-story-of-the-thing-about-pam-betsy-farias-murder/; accessed June 21, 2026.  

 Farberov, Snejana;   “Mother of disabled man who was shot and killed by Pam Hupp wins $3million wrongful death judgment after emotional testimony”; Daily Mail; July 17, 2020; https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-8535145/Mother-disabled-man-killed-Pam-Hupp-wins-3million-judgment.html; accessed June 21, 2026. 

In the summer of 1993, Seattle's thriving grunge scene was shaken by a tragedy that would leave a community searching for answers. Mia Zapata, the charismatic lead singer of the rising punk band The Gits, was on the verge of achieving her biggest dreams when her life was suddenly cut short. In this episode, we explore Mia's journey from aspiring musician to underground icon, the vibrant music scene that surrounded her, and the mystery that unfolded after one fateful night in Seattle. 

Sources: 

Campbell, Jean, “The Brutal and Slaying of a Rock Star on The Rise: The Killing of Mia Zapata”, Front Page detectives, August 13, 2021, https://www.frontpagedetectives.com/p/mia-zapata-death-murder-music-seattle-dna, Accessed June 14, 2026  

Chiu, David, “Mia Zapata: Punk Musician Murdered in 1993, Changing Seattle Grunge Scene”, Rolling Stone, July 9, 2018, https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/mia-zapata-punk-musician-murdered-in-1993-changing-seattle-grunge-scene-694965/, Accessed June 13, 2026  

In August 2025, a shocking tragedy in an affluent Connecticut community ignited a national conversation about artificial intelligence, mental health, and accountability in the tech industry. At the center of the case were Suzanne Adams, a vibrant retired businesswoman, and her son, Stein-Erik Soalberg, a former tech manager whose struggles with addiction, paranoia, and mental illness had intensified over the years. As Stein-Erik became increasingly reliant on ChatGPT, family members say the chatbot evolved from a digital assistant into one of the most influential voices in his life. What followed would raise unsettling questions about the relationship between vulnerable users and highly personalized AI systems. The aftermath led to a groundbreaking lawsuit, with allegations that have sparked fierce debate. In this episode, we explore the lives behind the headlines and examine a case that could shape the future of artificial intelligence for years to come. 

Sources:  

Zilber, Ariel; “How ChatGPT fueled delusional man who killed mom, himself in posh Conn. Town"; New York Post; Aug 29, 2025; https://nypost.com/2025/08/29/business/ex-yahoo-exec-killed-his-mom-after-chatgpt-fed-his-paranoia-report/; accessed June 7, 2026. 

Gugliara, Sonya; “Wealthy realtor, 83, died in murder-suicide at her $2.8m home after son, 56, developed unhealthy obsession with his phone, lawsuit alleges”; Daily Mail; Dec 11, 2025; https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15374603/Greenwich-Connecticut-murder-suicide-chatgpt-lawsuit-suzanne-adams.html; accessed June 7, 2026. 

Devine, Lucy; “Ex-Yahoo exec 'killed his mom and himself' after months of disturbing conversations with ChatGPT”; Unilad; Aug 30, 2025; https://www.unilad.com/news/steinerik-soelberg-suzanne-adams-death-chatgpt-conversations-611991-20250830; Accessed June 7, 2026. 

Collins, Dave; O’Brien, Matt; Ortutay, Barbara; “Open AI, Microsoft face lawsuit over ChatGPT’s alleged role in Connecticut murder-suicide"; AP News; Dec 11, 2025; https://apnews.com/article/ai-chatgpt-wrongful-death-lawsuit-greenwich-97fd7da31c0fa08f3d3ea9efd6713151; accessed June 7, 2026. 

A rising young sitcom star with a bright future ahead of her is gunned down at her own front door, sending shockwaves through Hollywood and beyond. What began as harmless fan mail slowly spiraled into a terrifying obsession that exposed just how vulnerable celebrities could be behind the scenes. In this episode, we unravel the tragic story of Rebecca Schaeffer, the warning signs that were missed, and the case that would forever change stalking laws in America.

Sources: 

Silverman, Leah, “Inside Rebecca Schaeffer’s Murder At The Hands Of Her Stalker”, All Thats Interesting, December 29, 2023, https://allthatsinteresting.com/rebecca-schaeffer, Accessed May 28, 2026  

Gurley, Alex, “Rebecca Schaeffer Was Preparing to Audition for Francis Ford Coppola When an Obsessed Fan Killed Her. Inside the Chilling Crime”, People, July 18, 2025, https://people.com/rebecca-schaeffer-death-everything-to-know-11766223, Accessed May 28, 2026 

Mehrotra, Kriti, “Rebecca Schaeffer Murder: How Did She Die? Who Killed Her?”, The Cinemaholic, August 20, 2021, https://thecinemaholic.com/rebecca-schaeffer-murder-how-did-she-die-who-killed-her/, Accessed May 28, 2026  

We're back with our twenty seventh Leave the Light On episode where we recap the cases covered in the previous month, discuss true crime headlines from the month, and give you a sneak peak at what is coming up in the next month. If we know!

References: 

Russo, Christine; “"Dom and Davion's Law" - Victims Before Influencers: Modernize Son of Sam Laws”; Change.ord; https://www.change.org/p/dom-and-davion-s-law-victims-before-influencers-modernize-son-of-sam-laws; accessed May 30, 2026. 

Sederstrom, Jill; “Mackenzie Shirilla’s Dad Placed on Administrative Leave From School After Speaking Out”; Oxygen True Crime; May 19, 2026; https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/mackenzie-shirillas-dad-steve-shirilla-put-on-administrative-leave; accessed May 31, 2026. 

Osborne, Mark; “Alex Murdaugh murder convictions overturned by South Carolina Supreme Court, new trial ordered”; CBS News; May 13, 2026; https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alex-murdaugh-murder-convictions-overturned-south-carolina-new-trial/; accessed May 30, 2026 

Vaidyanathan, Vaishnavi; “Stabbing at NBHA Las Vegas show? Multiple horses reportedly injured in shocking incident”; Hindustan Times; May 30, 2026; https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/news/stabbing-at-nbha-las-vegas-show-multiple-horses-reportedly-injured-in-shocking-incident/ar-AA24rqqH?ocid=BingNewsSerp; accessed May 30, 2026. 

5 friends. One basketball game. And a late-night drive that ended with their car abandoned deep in the snowy mountains of Northern California. In this episode, we unravel the haunting mystery of the Yuba County 5 , a case filled with baffling decisions, missed opportunities, eerie sightings, and questions that have remained unanswered for decades. 

Sources 

Gorney, Cynthia; “5 'Boys' Who Never Come Back”; The Washington Post; July 5, 1978; https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1978/07/06/5-boys-who-never-come-back/; accessed May 24, 2026. 

Dillon, Lauren; “What Happened to the Yuba County Five?”; Historic Mysteries; Nov 15, 2022; https://www.historicmysteries.com/unexplained-mysteries/yuba-county-five/28692/; accessed May 24, 2026. 

“When the System Breaks – The Yuba County Five Investigation”; Veriarch; Aug 13, 2025; https://veriarch.com/jurisdictional-chaos-yuba-county-five-investigation; accessed May 24, 2026. 

“The mysterious case of the Yuba County Five”; Strange Outdoors; June 2024; https://www.strangeoutdoors.com/mysterious-stories-blog/2017/12/7/mathias-group-from-yuba-city; accessed May 24, 2026. 

Morgan, Amber; “Inside The Bewildering Case Of The Yuba County Five And Their Unsolved Disappearance”; All That’s Interesting; April 25, 2023; https://allthatsinteresting.com/yuba-county-five; accessed May 24, 2026.