NIC Chats

Has the labor market reached a tipping point? And, why is healthcare one of the few sectors with employment numbers still below pre-pandemic peaks? Listen in as Paul Ashworth, Chief North America Economist for Capital Economics joins Lisa McCracken on the NIC Chats podcast to answer these questions and more. As they discuss current economic trends, learn why Ashworth thinks the U.S. economy is in a Goldilocks period, but what challenges might be looming as we head into 2025. You’ll also hear Ashworth’s prediction of the size of potential rate cuts in September and beyond.

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Fresh off the release of his new book, A Culture of Promise, Fee Stubblefield, Founder and CEO of The Springs Living, joins Lisa McCracken on a new episode of the NIC Chats podcast. Listen in as Fee shares his motivation for writing the book and what he’s learned about the importance of culture in an organization.

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Live from the 2024 NIC Spring Conference, listen in as Lisa McCracken, Head of Research & Analytics at NIC, sits down with Brett Landrum, Procare HR Founder and Co-CEO. Landrum expands on the capabilities that allow Procare HR to help operators deliver better quality of care, resident satisfaction, and financial results. Joining the discussion was Susie Koenig, Founder & CEO of healthcare management and consulting services firm SAK Healthcare. In today’s environment, with some senior housing and care companies facing distress situations, Koenig shares how SAK Healthcare has found success partnering with Procare HR as they work to shore up communities in distress.  

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Listen in as Beth Mace, Senior Advisor at NIC, sits down with Zach Bowyer, Senior Managing Director and head of living sectors at Cushman and Wakefield to discuss today’s capital markets, including the intersection of property market fundamentals and capital market pressure as well as how current conditions are affecting valuations and investment strategies. 

From discussing distressed properties and buyer profiles to exploring the inflection point at which the industry finds itself, this podcast is filled with insights on the unique challenges and opportunities within the senior housing sector. 

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Are you ready to unravel secrets to success with the senior living workforce? In this episode of the NIC Chats podcast, broadcast live from the 2023 NIC Fall Conference in Chicago, NIC’s Head of Research & Analytics, Lisa McCracken, discusses solutions to senior living workforce challenges with Brett Landrum, Co-CEO of Procare HR. 

Listen in as they uncover the crucial elements of successful human resources strategies in senior care. Learn why Landrum believes it’s all about the basics, and discover insights on: 

• Gathering key metrics that unveil your employee satisfaction. 
• The future of on-demand staff vs. core staff in the senior care industry. 
• The age-old debate: company wages vs. company culture – what really drives employee satisfaction and retention? 

Tune in and gain the knowledge you need to help your workforce thrive in senior care. 

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Delve into the senior housing transaction market with Beth Mace, Senior Advisor at NIC, in this captivating conversation with Al Della Porta, Managing Director and head of the Capital Markets Group at AEW Capital Management. Learn about the challenges and opportunities arising from the swiftly changing interest rate environment, and gain insights into how seasoned professionals like Della Porta are adapting to market shifts. Explore how senior housing fares in today’s shifting landscape.

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In this first episode of our new NIC Chats podcast series focused on today's capital market conditions and implications for senior housing and care, NIC senior advisor Beth Mace speaks with Jim Costello, chief economist on the MSCI Real Estate Assets team. Learn why Costello likens today’s capital markets to a stretchy rubber band, why he believes distressed assets may prompt a transactions turning point, and when he thinks the market will settle down. Hear Costello’s perspective on how, and why, today’s capital markets turmoil affects senior housing differently than some other commercial sectors. 

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In this special episode, discover the remarkable experiences and lessons learned from our very own host, NIC Chief Economist, Beth Mace. This time, Chuck Harry, NIC’s Chief Operating Officer, poses the very questions Beth has expertly asked more than 25 other industry leaders over the years. 

Drawing from her vast experience, Beth offers wisdom and perspectives that can only come from a true expert in the field. Gain insights into the senior housing sector, including tactics Beth advises to increase resident and staff retention. Join us as we celebrate the invaluable contributions of this industry icon. 

And, of course, it wouldn’t be a NIC Chats podcast without the “two truths and a lie” that help you get to know industry leaders better. Listen in to hear what draws Beth to France every year, and if she really was the first female ice cream truck driver in the Boston suburbs. 

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Join us as we delve into Susan Barlow's inspiring journey, exploring how her interest in senior housing propelled her as Co-founder & Managing Partner of Blue Moon Capital Partners, and NIC Board Vice Chair, to find success leading a women-owned business. On this episode of the NIC Chats podcast, those involved in senior housing debt and equity will gain valuable insights on selecting the right operators, aligning investment structures, and navigating the evolving landscape of the senior housing industry. And don't forget to test your detective skills with Beth Mace in another exciting round of "Two Truths and a Lie." Make your guess on which statement about Susan is actually false:

• Susan's upbringing involved living on a cattle ranch in Wyoming.
• Senior housing has deep roots within her family.
• She holds a Bachelor's of Science degree in nursing.

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What is thematic investing and why does Kurt Read swear by it? 
What makes a good investment opportunity? 
And did Kurt actually herd sheep for Rupert Murdoch?

In this episode of NIC Chats, Kurt Read, managing director of RSF Partners and NIC board chair, talks with Beth Mace about RSF’s thematic approach and requirements for investing and why this is the time for radical transparency in the senior housing industry. Later, they address how the labor shortage in senior housing has created growth opportunities for young professionals.  

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