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What can we truly learn about the brain from a kidney cell? And what do aliens and alien-like limbs have to teach us? And if language is our escape velocity moment, what does that mean for the future of AI?

Nikolay Kukushkin is a scientist who believes that memory, intelligence, and even the roots of awareness may exist in places we never thought to look in. The timing of molecules in the learning of single cells, in the slow abstractions of evolution. He takes us through all of this in this wonderful new book, One Hand Clapping. Now let's go into the impossible.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

00:00 "Sea Slugs and Abstract Thought"

09:55 "Cell Intelligence and Sound"

10:47 Cellular Intelligence and Memory

19:22 "One Hand Clapping: Zen Riddle"

23:18 "Evolution of Inner Worlds"

31:05 "Einstein, Thought Experiments, and LLMs"

32:50 "Can LLMs Achieve Life?"

38:01 Alien Encounters: Unlikely Similarity

45:39 Unanticipated Findings on Cellular Memory

53:33 "Interdisciplinary Creativity and Slow Multitasking"

55:58 Evolution of the Gut

01:04:57 "Interconnection and Existential Koan"

01:08:19 "Reconstructing Nature's Patterns"

01:13:55 "Evolution of Brain's Role"

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