Into the Impossible With Brian Keating

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Into the Impossible With Brian Keating episodes

  • Are UFOs Alien Tech? Avi Loeb vs Michael Shermer

    Is there alien technology in our skies, or just birds, balloons and bad video?

    Two members of the White House UAP Science Advisory Council face off LIVE. Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb, who chairs the council, makes the case for searching. Michael Shermer, the council skeptic Loeb picked himself, says show me the evidence. They have $1,000 riding on whether non-human technology is confirmed by 2030.

    Get all my best ET content: https://big-bang.kit.com/bvyt

    We'll cover the redacted Pentagon videos, Loeb's new papers on tracking objects over Nevada, the claims from David Grusch, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna and Eric Weinstein, and what evidence would change each of their minds.

    Avi Loeb: https://avi-loeb.medium.com/

    Michael Shermer: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2026/10/08/opinion/aliens-uap-ufo-videos-trump/

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    1 hr 23 min
  • Adam Grant: Don't Trust Your Gut. Test It.

    When two people are vibing, their brainwaves synchronize and so do their heartbeats. That is not a metaphor. It is a measurable physiological event, and organizational psychologist Adam Grant has spent his career figuring out how to make it happen on purpose. Subscribe if you want science with evidence, not speculation.

    Grant’s new book Vibe is his seventh. It argues that the science of human connection has been hiding in plain sight for a century, and that most of what people do to build relationships is either backwards or unnecessary.

    The episode covers why the highest sign of chemistry between people is enjoying your disagreements rather than avoiding them, why remote work produces boreout rather than burnout, and why your first impression of someone is a snapshot of one situation that may not represent the whole person. It also covers burstiness, confident humility, and why universities have survived COVID, AI, and every other disruption that was supposed to end them.

    What you’ll hear:

    • Why the pendulum clock experiment from 1665 explains what happens when people stop trying to force a connection
    • What the HiPPO effect does to a team and why the highest paid person’s opinion kills creative ideas
    • Why Grant ran experiments on university fundraising callers that tripled their revenue with a five-minute intervention
    • What desirability bias is and why Grant thinks it is more dangerous than confirmation bias
    • Why Grant A/B tested the subtitle of his own book and what “relationships” signaled that “connections” did not
    • What Grant and Brian agree on about false certainty and thinking in conditional probabilities
    • “The highest sign of chemistry between people is not agreeing with them. It’s enjoying your disagreements.” — Adam Grant

      CHAPTERS

      00:00 Vibing is real. Your brainwaves prove it.

      05:30 Task conflict vs. relationship conflict

      07:40 Who is actually in charge: parents or infants?

      10:14 Burstiness: the remote work pattern that works

      14:24 Don’t trust your gut. Test it.

      19:34 Confident humility: the essence of a good scientist

      21:32 Desirability bias is worse than confirmation bias

      29:00 Zoom fatigue is boreout, not burnout

      30:02 The A/B test that killed “relationships”

      34:14 Don’t disbelieve what can’t be falsified

      Get the transcript, fascinating bonus content, and my Monday M.A.G.I.C. Message: https://briankeating.com/yt

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      Featured Guest:

      Adam Grant website: https://adamgrant.net/

      Vibe (book): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GPHPNZ14

      Adam Grant on Twitter/X: https://x.com/adammgrant

      My books:

      Losing the Nobel Prize (memoir): http://amzn.to/2sa5UpA

      Think Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://urlgeni.us/amzn/TLANPW

      Focus Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://a.co/d/hi50U9U

      Galileo’s Dialogue (first-ever audiobook): https://a.co/d/iZPi9Un

      Twitter/X: https://x.com/BrianKeating

      Substack: https://briankeating.substack.com

      Blog: https://briankeating.com/blog

      Audio-only: https://briankeating.com/podcast

      #AdamGrant #loneliness #remotework #psychology #briankeating #intotheimpossible #Vibe

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      45 min
    • Roman Yampolskiy vs Joscha Bach: Can Anyone Control Superintelligence?

      Roman Yampolskiy says keeping a superintelligence safe forever is as impossible as building a perpetual motion machine. Joscha Bach says today's AI is more controllable than anyone expected, and that shutting it down would doom us anyway.

      📬 Get the transcript, fascinating bonus content, and my Monday M.A.G.I.C. Message: https://briankeating.com/ai

      Roman Yampolskiy is a computer scientist at the University of Louisville who has spent more than a decade on the AI control problem. Joscha Bach is a cognitive scientist who studies how minds, biological and artificial, build a model of reality.

      We cover: why a perpetual safety device may be as impossible as perpetual motion, what happens when AI research automates itself (Roman puts it at 28 percent today), whether nuclear deterrence is the right analogy, who really benefits when AI labs ask to be regulated, and why consciousness may have nothing to do with whether AI is safe.

      Being conscious does not make you kind.

      00:00 Simulation theory meets certain doom
      03:25 Is P(doom) even a real number?
      06:05 Why a simulated world still matters
      09:26 Should we have skipped the Trinity test?
      13:04 Did nukes actually keep the peace?
      17:32 Why haven't we wiped out the spiders?
      22:35 Is AI doom falsifiable?
      25:48 Why a self-driving car isn't the threat
      29:27 Roman's 28% automation number
      34:46 Intelligence is not agency
      39:20 Can superintelligence be proven safe?
      42:40 Who wins when AI labs ask for regulation?
      47:45 Does consciousness make AI safer?
      53:48 Would a perfect mind discover God?
      58:37 The Tower of Babel, read backward
      1:03:52 Can you control a mind a million times smarter?
      1:04:43 The narrow AI path Roman wants instead

      🏄‍♂️ Twitter: @plinz
      🏄‍♂️ Twitter: @romanyam

      📬 Get the transcript, fascinating bonus content, and my Monday M.A.G.I.C. Message: https://briankeating.com/ai
      🌠 Have a .edu email and live in the USA 🇺🇸? You automatically win a meteorite: https://BrianKeating.com/edu

      🎯 Support Into the Impossible on Patreon: get my weekly M.A.G.I.C. Message, unfiltered bonus content, and live monthly Office Hours with me: patreon.com/drbriankeating

      ⭐ Join this channel for perks, monthly Office Hours, and your name in the Member Roster at the end of every episode: youtube.com/@drbriankeating

      📚 My books:
      Losing the Nobel Prize (memoir): http://amzn.to/2sa5UpA
      Think Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://a.co/d/03ezQFu
      Focus Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://a.co/d/hi50U9U
      Galileo's Dialogue (first-ever audiobook): https://a.co/d/iZPi9Un

      🌐 More:
      🏄‍♂️ Twitter: @BrianKeating
      📚 Substack: https://briankeating.substack.com/
      ✍️ Blog: https://briankeating.com/blog
      🎙️ Audio-only: https://briankeating.com/podcast

      #intotheimpossible #briankeating #science #physics #astronomy #cosmology #podcast #universe

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      1 hr 15 min
    • "I Thought It Would Fail!" Francis Halzen: Winner of the 2026 Nobel Prize In Physics [Reupload from 2022]

      The physicist who turned a cubic kilometer of Antarctic ice into a telescope says the most exciting moment of his career was not the discovery. It was the first atmospheric neutrino. Before that, he was deep in debt to NSF and his own university with no neutrino to show for it.

      Francis Halzen is principal investigator of the IceCube Neutrino Observatory at the South Pole and Hilldale and Gregory Breit Distinguished Professor of Physics at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

      We cover: why ice under the South Pole is clearer than anything a lab can make, the 2,600 TeV event that dwarfs the LHC, why IceCube sees more energy in cosmic neutrinos than in gamma rays, how neutrinos crossing the universe test quantum gravity, and the quark he refused to believe in.

      Physics is a miserable career unless you are obsessed by it.

      Recorded in 2022, before IceCube detected neutrinos from our own galaxy.

      Learn from Nobel Prize winners, and you could win a meteorite: Please join my mailing list here 👉 briankeating.com/x

      Chapters

      00:00 Physics is a miserable career, unless
      02:54 A textbook written before the W was found
      06:11 Breaking into Lemaître's computer at night
      10:57 Do scientists owe the public anything?
      13:55 Deep in debt with zero neutrinos
      19:40 The persuasion nobody teaches scientists
      20:15 Why it could only be the South Pole
      23:20 Learn physics by doing, not by courses
      26:00 How to turn Antarctic ice into a telescope
      31:30 2,600 TeV: far beyond the LHC
      35:00 More energy in neutrinos than gamma rays
      40:00 Tracing ghost particles to NGC 1068
      46:00 Testing quantum gravity with neutrinos
      1:01:00 Ten times the ice for the same price
      1:07:08 What he would leave his descendants
      1:11:19 What his generation should be proud of
      1:12:51 The quark he refused to believe in
      1:17:09 Imagination can trump intelligence

      📺 Watch my most popular videos:

      Neil Turok Believes Physics Is In Crisis
      Nobel Prizewinner Frank Wilczek
      Stephen Wolfram vs. Eric Weinstein
      Sir Roger Penrose: Nobel Prize in Physics, Black Holes and More
      Noam Chomsky: Consciousness, Elon Musk, and More
      Sabine Hossenfelder
      Avi Loeb: UFOs and UAPs
      Neil deGrasse Tyson

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      🏄‍♂️ Twitter: @DrBrianKeating
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      A production of imagination.ucsd.edu

      Executive Producer: Brian Keating
      Producer P.G.A: Stuart Volkow
      Editing: Lucas Scheiblich

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      1 hr 28 min
    • Nobel Economist Daron Acemoglu WARNING: AI's Payoff Is NOT What You Think

      Nobel laureate Daron Acemoglu says AI's real productivity gain is an order of magnitude smaller than the industry claims.

      The bigger danger is not the machine. It is that a handful of people are deciding how it gets built.

      Daron Acemoglu is an MIT economist who shared the 2024 Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences.

      We cover: why a Nobel chemist left Berkeley for China, the optimal amount of heresy science should tolerate, the one rule that would end algorithmic outrage without censoring anyone, the accounting trick behind billionaire wealth, and why AI's path is a design decision, not destiny.

      We are still a democracy. Perhaps not for long.

      Chapters:

        0:00 Can science survive without democracy?t
        2:08 Why a Nobel laureate left Berkeley for Chinat
        3:58 What Galileo knew that Kepler didn'tt
        5:12 Is peer review undemocratic?t
        7:41 The optimal amount of scientific heresyt
        10:06 Science isn't slowing. So what broke?t
        12:06 The design choice behind echo chamberst
        14:49 One rule that would fix social mediat
        19:26 Should Elon Musk have this much wealth?t
        23:49 AI is a design choice, not destinyt

      ———

      📬 Get the transcript, fascinating bonus content, and my Monday M.A.G.I.C. Message: https://briankeating.com/yt

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      🎯 Support Into the Impossible on Patreon — get my weekly M.A.G.I.C. Message, unfiltered bonus content, and live monthly Office Hours with me: / drbriankeating

      ⭐ Join this channel for perks, monthly Office Hours, and your name in the Member Roster at the end of every episode: / @drbriankeating

      📚 My books:

        Losing the Nobel Prize (memoir): http://amzn.to/2sa5UpAt
        Think Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://a.co/d/03ezQFut
        Focus Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://a.co/d/hi50U9Ut
        Galileo's Dialogue (first-ever audiobook): https://a.co/d/iZPi9Unt

      🌐 More:

        🏄‍♂️ Twitter: / briankeating
        📚 Substack https://briankeating.substack.com/ss
        ✍️ Blog: https://briankeating.com/blog
        🎙️ Audio-only: https://briankeating.com/podcast

      #intotheimpossible #briankeating #science #physics #astronomy #cosmology #podcast #universe

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      36 min
    • AI Is the New Tower of Babel (And Its Builders Know It)

      The new Tower of Babel, and its builders are becoming like gods to us. The bigger threat isn't killer robots; it's how much of your own mind you've already handed over.

      I joined Mike Slater on Politics By Faith (The First) to talk about AI, faith, and the people building it.

      We cover: why Babel is always the city AND the tower, how the same AI that discovers drugs can build super viruses, what I'm seeing in my own classroom as term begins, why cognitive offloading scares me more than Terminators, and the one thing AI still can't do without us.

      AI belongs in your hands as a thinking partner, never the primary creator.

      Chapters:

        00:00 Mike Slater introduces Brian Keating (cosmologist, not cosmetologist)
        00:37 Why AI is the Tower of Babel — the city and the tower
        02:05 The double-edged sword: new drugs vs. super viruses
        02:57 Altman, Amodei, Musk — "they become like gods to us"
        03:42 "Regulate us, take us over" — who really wants that
        04:23 A scientist weighs progress: "I'm an accelerationist"
        05:19 AI as a curiosity amplifier, not a shortcut
        06:04 First day of class at UC San Diego — the war over AI
        07:22 Thinking partner, not primary creator — and the nuclear analogy
        08:20 Cognitive offloading — how many phone numbers do you remember?
        09:17 The worldview of the people running AI
        10:35 Why I'm not a doomer — and what to actually do (local models)

      ———

      📬 Get the transcript, fascinating bonus content, and my Monday M.A.G.I.C. Message: https://briankeating.com/yt

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      / @drbriankeating

      📚 My books:

        Losing the Nobel Prize (memoir): http://amzn.to/2sa5UpA
        Think Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://a.co/d/03ezQFu
        Focus Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://a.co/d/hi50U9U
        Galileo's Dialogue (first-ever audiobook): https://a.co/d/iZPi9Un

      🌐 More:

        🏄‍♂️ Twitter: /briankeating
        📚 Substack https://briankeating.substack.com/ss
        ✍️ Blog: https://briankeating.com/blog
        🎙️ Audio-only: https://briankeating.com/podcast

      #intotheimpossible #briankeating #science #physics #astronomy #cosmology #podcast #universe

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      14 min
    • Robert Wright: AI Alignment Is a Moral Problem, Not a Technical One

      The real AI alignment problem is not technical. It is moral. You cannot align a superintelligence to human values if humans cannot agree on what those values are, and you cannot get that agreement without a level of global cooperation we have never managed before. Subscribe if you want science with evidence, not speculation.


      The Tower of Babel is the AI parable nobody is reading. Technology that outpaces wisdom fragments the people building it. The Fermi paradox offers the grimmer version: civilizations that reach the capacity to blow themselves up typically do. Robert Wright has been watching this longer than almost anyone, he was reporting on neural networks in 1983, and his conclusion is not that the machines will fail the test. It is that we will.


      Wright’s book argues that superintelligence is not the danger and AI alignment is not the solution unless it comes with a moral advance. Passing the God test requires something no lab can ship.


      What you’ll hear:

      -Why Wright thinks p(doom) fails as a scientific concept

      -What the binding of Isaac and the Tower of Babel have in common as moral tests

      -Why global cooperation is the only thing that can actually slow AI down

      -What Lee Smolin’s cosmological natural selection has to do with the Fermi paradox

      -What Wright thinks Eastern and Western enlightenment have in common and why it matters now

      -Whether there is a role for humanity inside the global brain or only for the machines

      “We face the kind of test that God would give.” — Robert Wright


      CHAPTERS

      00:00 The man who interviewed Hinton in 1983

      05:04 The God test and its two meanings

      08:36 Religious faith in technological progress

      14:10 Hinton then versus Hinton now

      19:38 Why slowing AI down requires international cooperation

      26:02 How LLMs reverse-engineer the meaning of words

      32:08 Brian's Einstein test: can Claude have a happy thought?

      40:06 AGI is impossible. Here is why Brian thinks that.

      47:04 The Fermi paradox as a moral filter

      51:10 What passing the God test actually looks like


      Get the transcript, fascinating bonus content, and my Monday M.A.G.I.C. Message: https://briankeating.com/yt

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      Support Into the Impossible on Patreon, get my weekly M.A.G.I.C. Message, unfiltered bonus content, and live monthly Office Hours with me: https://www.patreon.com/drbriankeating

      Join this channel for perks, monthly Office Hours, and your name in the Member Roster at the end of every episode: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmXH_moPhfkqCk6S3b9RWuw/join

      Featured Guest:

      The God Test (book): https://thegodtest.net

      Robert Wright on Twitter/X: https://x.com/RWrighter

      My books:

      Losing the Nobel Prize (memoir): http://amzn.to/2sa5UpA

      Think Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://a.co/d/03ezQFu

      Focus Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://a.co/d/hi50U9U

      Galileo’s Dialogue (first-ever audiobook): https://a.co/d/iZPi9Un

      Twitter/X: https://x.com/BrianKeating

      Substack: https://briankeating.substack.com

      Blog: https://briankeating.com/blog

      Audio-only: https://briankeating.com/podcast


      #RobertWright #AIalignment #superintelligence #FermiParadox #briankeating #intotheimpossible #AI

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      1 hr 1 min
    • Former NASA Physicist: The UAP Maneuver That Should Have Exploded

      A physics professor ran the energy budget on the Nimitz tic-tac. The maneuver needs about a thousand gigawatts, more than ten times every nuclear plant in the United States combined.

      Nothing we build survives its own waste heat at that scale. So what was flying?

      Kevin Knuth is a professor of physics at the University at Albany and a former NASA scientist who now applies Bayesian statistics to UAP sensor data.

      We cover: why a 5,400 g maneuver would turn a pilot into soup, where the energy went when the object stopped and no explosion followed, the 1954 radar measurements nobody wants to talk about, the New Zealand frigate that went dark and adrift in three seconds, and why the records from that deployment stay classified until 2062.

      Knuth says the power numbers alone rule out human technology. I push back on whether the sensors agree.

      Newsletter, full transcript, and my Monday M.A.G.I.C. Message: briankeating.com/aliens

      CHAPTERS

        00:00 Why this field needs gatekeepers
        03:50 How anomalous is anomalous?
        06:40 The UFO photo that was a seagull
        10:40 Radar clocked them at 19 km/s in 1954
        15:00 5,400 g and a body weighing 227 tonnes
        19:00 The radar return problem he had not considered
        21:45 A gigawatt of waste heat and nowhere to put it
        24:30 The 747 chased by something carrier sized
        29:00 Why a number without an error bar is worthless
        34:30 The NASA job he was not qualified for
        37:00 Proxima Centauri in a day and a half
        41:00 The warship that lost all power in 3 seconds
        46:30 Pushing a column of water that cannot compress
        48:45 The light that burned bark off the trees
        53:00 What the power numbers rule out
        56:00 The 95 percent problem

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      1 hr 4 min
    • Carlo Rovelli: Free Will Is Real. Physics Can Prove It.

      This episode is sponsored by Abacus AI agent: agent.abacus.ai/keating


      I fed it Carlo's recent papers and asked for the argument, the counterargument, and the evidence that would support or refute each side. Some of the questions and animations in this interview came out of that. It runs the top frontier models in one place, turns a dense PDF into a research report or a presentation with charts, builds interactive dashboards off a spreadsheet, and takes API access if you want it wired into your own tools.


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      The physicist who built loop quantum gravity says the second law does not say what you were taught it says, and that freedom does not require breaking a single law of nature. Order builds itself. Your head is older than your feet. And neither one is the strangest thing here.


      Carlo Rovelli founded the loop quantum gravity program and wrote the relational interpretation of quantum mechanics.


      We cover: why oil separating from water is not a violation of entropy, what Galileo got wrong about the one discovery he is most famous for, the paper Einstein published denying gravitational waves, why a chess program that deliberates tells you what your own freedom actually is, and what Rovelli would build with ten years and unlimited money.


      “To imagine that to be free you have to violate the laws of nature is stupid.” — Carlo Rovelli


      CHAPTERS

      00:00 Your head is older than your feet

      00:48 Things left alone get ordered. Who ordered them?

      07:00 Low entropy might be about you, not the universe

      08:38 You can be in two cities at once, just not to you

      11:02 Why start with Galileo when Einstein knew more?

      19:34 Galileo misunderstood his own discovery

      22:32 Einstein published a paper denying gravitational waves

      25:08 The definition of time that explains nothing

      26:50 Two clocks, two metres apart, two answers

      31:06 Nothing gets recorded without something being lost

      33:12 The chess program deliberates. So do you.

      37:06 Can a machine have Einstein’s happiest thought?

      39:52 Thirty minutes versus a month

      44:10 Dark matter made of black holes the size of a hair

      51:10 Ten years, unlimited money, a room full of junctions


      Rovelli told me the second law does not say what I was taught it says. Order builds itself.

      Transcript, bonus content, and my Monday M.A.G.I.C. Message: https://briankeating.com/yt


      Three moments worth the rewatch:

      07:00 The entropy you were taught is a point of view
      26:50 Why your head is older than your feet
      39:52 The thing Claude did in 30 minutes


      Get the transcript, fascinating bonus content, and my Monday M.A.G.I.C. Message: https://briankeating.com/yt


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      Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/DrBrianKeating?sub_confirmation=1


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      Featured Guest:

      Carlo Rovelli website: https://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr/~rovelli/


      The Relational Universe (book): https://www.amazon.com/dp/0735216118


      Carlo Rovelli on Twitter/X: https://x.com/carlorovelli


      My books:

      Losing the Nobel Prize (memoir): http://amzn.to/2sa5UpA
      Think Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://a.co/d/03ezQFu
      Focus Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://a.co/d/hi50U9U
      Galileo’s Dialogue (first-ever audiobook): https://a.co/d/iZPi9Un


      Twitter/X: https://x.com/BrianKeating

      Substack: https://briankeating.substack.com
      Blog: https://briankeating.com/blog
      Audio-only: https://briankeating.com/podcast


      #CarloRovelli #freewill #entropy #physics #quantumgravity #briankeating #intotheimpossible


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      1 hr 7 min
    • They Built the Quietest Place on Earth to Find Dark Matter
      They Built the Quietest Place on Earth to Find Dark Matter

      One event in 220 days. That is what the search for dark matter looks like right now.

      In this episode I talk with Rick Gaitskell, professor of physics at Brown University and a leader on the LZ dark matter experiment, about what it takes to build a detector that can see almost nothing at all: seven tonnes of liquid xenon, a mile of rock in an old gold mine, and shielding so careful that the radon seeping out of ordinary concrete counts as a serious enemy. We get into why the field spent decades hunting the WIMP, what happens to a 3.4 sigma result when you look at it honestly, and why a single event, however beautiful, cannot tell you what you want it to tell you.

      We also talk about the human side of a project like this. The grad student who waited nine years for data. The physicist who walked away from investment banking. The uncomfortable fact that something like ninety-five percent of research does not work out, and what keeps people going anyway.

      And the line that sits under all of it: we only get one damn universe, and nature does not care whether your theory is beautiful.

      Chapters
      • 00:00 One event in 220 days
      • 06:00 Why they named it a WIMP
      • 13:00 Ninety-five percent of research fails
      • 20:00 He left investment banking for this
      • 23:00 You are less than five percent of the universe
      • 30:00 The fifty-year-old idea nobody can kill
      • 45:00 The grad student who waited nine years
      • 58:00 A gold mine and the quietest place on Earth
      • 1:06:00 The radon in your basement is the enemy
      • 1:21:00 The assumption that was hiding the signal
      • 1:32:00 The event, and why they will not call it blinded
      • 1:40:00 How 3.4 sigma becomes 2.6
      • 1:49:00 The fog nobody can scrub
      • 1:56:00 The dark matter we detected in 1956
      • My books
        • Losing the Nobel Prize (memoir)
        • Think Like a Nobel Prize Winner
        • Focus Like a Nobel Prize Winner
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          About Into the Impossible With Brian Keating

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          Think like a physicist. Wonder like a human. Into the Impossible is where Cosmic Conversations happen — uniting Nobel Prize winners, iconoclasts, authors, and technologists to explore reality’s deepest questions. From AI to aliens, from biophysics to the brain, from the cosmos to the multiverse, Brian Keating, Chancellor’s Distinguished Professor of Physics at UC San Diego covers it all.

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