A small group of centrist Democrats nearly sinks one of the most popular provisions of the Build Back Better plan. Brian interviews the governor of New Jersey, Phil Murphy, who’s up for re-election this year, about his approach to COVID and what NJ is doing on voting rights in the face of so many attacks on those rights across the country. And FOX LA host Elex Michaelson joins to debrief on the California recall and what it means for Trumpism moving forward.

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Written by Brian Tyler Cohen

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Recorded in Los Angeles, CA

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