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Award-winning science fiction writer Nnedi Okorafor, who coined the term "Africanfuturism" joins co-hosts Paul Giamatti and Stephen Asma on this episode of CHINWAG.

Tickling mice, javelin-throwing nuns and making friends with sentient AI are just some of the detours their conversation takes this week. Can Stephen and Nnedi finally bridge the gap between cat people and dog people and bring long-lasting peace to civilization?

Paul Giamatti is an award-winning actor and producer. Stephen Asma is a professor and author specializing in the philosophy of science, religion, and art.

Nnedi Okrafor is the winner of Hugo, Nebula, World Fantasy, Locus and Lodestar Awards. Her works include WHO FEARS DEATH and the BINTI novella trilogy.

Note: This episode was recorded prior to the SAG-AFTRA strike.

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